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What is your preferred political movement?

Liberalism
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67%
Communism
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No votes
Anarchism
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10%
Conservatism
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No votes
Fascism
1
5%
Other
4
19%
 
Total votes: 21
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What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Metaler » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:53 am

Got a little curious after a discussion some of us had in a different thread. Title's self-explanatory.

Also, I understand that a lot of people like a little bit of everything, but this poll asks about your preferred ideology, the one you agree with/follow the most, so pick the one that falls under such criteria.

And, to clarify, I didn't include Capitalism because it's more of an economical ideology than a political one.

EDIT: Removed Socialism for the same reason.

EDIT 2: uuuh.... I thought editing the poll would retain the votes...? I dunno how this works. It's my first poll yet I screw up like this. hooray!
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by superunature » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:11 am

if Capitalism isn't on there, Socialism shouldn't either. Anyways, Liberalism
I liked our little discussion btw; I like to see how other people think. Although I don't agree nor believe your ideology would work in practice, (would be rather chaotic) I do understand your concern that the gov't shouldn't control us if that is not what we (the people) want.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Momo » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:47 am

^ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."

I've said it before, but-- V For Vendetta

OT: I'm apolitical. Sometime, somehow, in some way, someone will screw up anything and everything.

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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Jack_Rav » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:12 pm

I tend to avoid really long discussions on politics, but if I had to associate with one of the ones in your poll it would be Liberalism. I greatly believe in the right of the individual to do as they please, until the exercise of that freedom impacts negatively upon the exercise of that right by other people.

As an aside, economically I'm definitely more left than most political parties are today.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Alexander » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:37 pm

Where is the politics sucks option?
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Eclairs » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:21 pm

easy - Liberalism.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by xcrossfacekillahx » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:01 pm

I pick liberalism.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Metaler » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:16 pm

superunature wrote:if Capitalism isn't on there, Socialism shouldn't either.
Hmm... You have a good point there. Removing it.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Hakurouken » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:19 pm

Anarchism for me, closer to what i desire.
I dont like having chats or talking about politics or morals, but the discussion on the other thread was interesting and nice to read people talking maturely, instead of arguing and impossing/forcing on the rest which is what can be seen on most places.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Jeffrey-sama » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:05 pm

Liberalism since it sounds the most "fair".
But to be honest, I don't think there'll ever be a society in which the political leaders are fully "fair and just".
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Metaler » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:22 pm

Anyone who already voted before the edit, place your votes again because the poll seems to have been reset after the edit... >___>
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Bastion » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:03 pm

I think I'm of a liberal mindset, but I don't know/don't care enough to know exactly if that's the right option for it, so I voted for other.
I've alway followed a mindset of moderation and making sure to look at both sides of an argument, while it's the extremists who normally get the media notice, so I can't really tell.

I like to voice my opinion on such matters, the discussions are almost always entertaining.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by maglor » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:13 am

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Communism is a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, stateless and socialist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production.

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Conservatism (Latin: conservare, "to preserve")[1] is a political and social philosophy that promotes the maintenance of traditional institutions and supports at the most, minimal and gradual change in society. Some conservatives seek to preserve things as they are, emphasizing stability and continuity, while others oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were".[2][3] The first established use of the term in a political context was by François-René de Chateaubriand in 1819, following the French Revolution.[4] The term, historically associated with right-wing politics, has since been used to describe a wide range of views.

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Fascism (play /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2] Fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics.[3][4] Fascism seeks to purify the nation of foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture.[5] Fascism promotes political violence and war, as forms of direct action that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality.[3][6] Fascists commonly utilize paramilitary organizations for violence against opponents or to overthrow a political system.[7] Fascism opposes multiple ideologies: conservatism, liberalism, and two major forms of socialism—communism and social democracy.[8] Fascism claims to represent a synthesis of cohesive ideas previously divided between traditional political ideologies.[9] To achieve its goals, the fascist state purges forces, ideas, people, and systems deemed to be the cause of decadence and degeneration.[10]

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Social democracy is an international political movement and political ideology that has undergone three major phases throughout its history.[1] In contemporary uses, social democracy generally refers to advocacy for some form of regulation of the economy and support for a welfare state and ameliorative measures to benefit the working class within the framework of a market economy. Historically, social democracy is generally defined as a political movement that seeks to build an alternative socialist economy gradually through the institutions of liberal democracy.[2]

Contemporary[dubious – discuss] Social democracy is defined as a political movement that seeks to profoundly reform capitalism to align it with the ethical ideals of social justice, rather than creating an alternative socialist economic system[dubious – discuss].[3][4] Contemporary Social democratic policies include support for a welfare state, Keynesian macro-economic policies, and collective bargaining arrangements to balance the power of capital and labor.[5] Examples of contemporary social democracy include the Nordic model and social market economy.

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Third Way social democracy refers to a form of social democracy that adheres to the concept of Third Way politics.[1] Proponents of Third Way social democracy claim it is "competition socialism" - an ideology in between traditional socialism and capitalism.[2] Opponents claim that it is not a form of socialism, and claim that it represents social democrats who responded to the New Right by accepting capitalism.[3] A chief proponent of Third Way, Anthony Giddens supports social democracy but claims that "traditional socialist" ideology involving economic management and planning are flawed and states "as a theory of the managed economy, socialism barely exists any longer".[4]

Tony Blair as a UK Labour Party MP wrote in a Fabian pamphlet in 1994 of the existence of two prominent variants of socialism: one is based on a Marxist economic determinist and collectivist tradition, and the other is an "ethical socialism" based on values of "social justice, the equal worth of each citizen, equality of opportunity, community".[8] In 1998, Blair then as UK Labour Party leader and Prime Minister of the United Kingdom described the relation between social democracy and Third Way as the following:

The Third Way stands for a modernized social democracy, passionate in its commitment to social justice and the goals of the centre-left…But it is a third way because it moves decisively beyond an Old Left preoccupied by state control, high taxation and producer interests; and a New Right treating public investment, and often the very notions of ‘society’ and collective endeavour, as evils to be undone. - Tony Blair, 1998.[9]

Prominent British social democrats have asserted the necessity of a decentralized socialism to prevail over the traditional centralized socialism.[10] They have opposed the automatic association of social ownership as being state ownership as pursued by traditional socialists.[11] Preston T. King argues that contrary to the conventional emphasis on state ownership by traditional socialists, state ownership is not a distinctive aspect of socialism, because many other ideologies support state ownership in some amount or form.[12] King argues that socialism can be achieved through regulation of the economy that does not require direct ownership or direct management over the economy.[13]

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Therefore , I choose contemporary social democracy which means I will choosing the 'Other'. More precisely, I think I am for Third Way social democracy
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Eater-of-All » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:59 am

I voted liberalism, but only for the classical definition of it. I want nothing to do with welfare state, entitlement, big government, or other BS often associated with the modern liberalism. In fact, there's ideas I hate from every modern mainstream ideology; a typical centrist, eh?
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Teaspoon » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:50 am

Other: United States Libertarianism/Constitutionalism
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Political scholars, such as Noam Chomsky, claim that in most parts of the world, the terms "libertarian" and "libertarianism" are synonymous with Left anarchism.[13] It is only in the United States that the term libertarian is commonly associated with those who have conservative positions on economic issues and liberal positions on social issues.[14] This is based on the common meanings of "conservative" and "liberal" in the United States.
I don't have much knowledge on other countries' political processes but here I support:
Free-market capitalism
Individual freedoms and liberties as given by the Constitution/Bill of Rights
Small or limited federal government with most control given to state/local government
Limited wars and foreign aid
No big government and welfare-state leeching

So um, Ron Paul '12 :)
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by xcrossfacekillahx » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:48 pm

Teaspoon wrote: So um, Ron Paul '12 :)
Ron Paul is the fan favorite but can he win against Romney and then against Obama?
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Teaspoon » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:17 pm

xcrossfacekillahx wrote:
Teaspoon wrote: So um, Ron Paul '12 :)
Ron Paul is the fan favorite but can he win against Romney and then against Obama?
Since the media hates him, no he probably cannot. Despite the fact that a huge percentage of people support him :\ Unfortunately a lot of "important" people would stand to lose a lot of money if he had things his way, this including the people that control elections. Also there's the fact that Americans are now extremely afraid of freedom and independence. We've been hand-held by the government so long that people aren't sure how to run their own lives and that scares a lot of people.

Mark my words though, if anyone but him gets elected this year, the U.S. will become something similar to the poor Eastern European countries. Then again there's the chance of Rand Paul possibly bailing us out in 2016.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by superunature » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:50 pm

I wouldn't call it "Huge percentage". He has won like 25 delegates out of like 600 so far.
They all sound like they can change the nation. In 08', Obama's election campaign sounded very good as well, but most of them can't do much unless their party also controls both the senate and the house.
people like to receive benefits and no cuts, yet they also wants to cut taxes, it can't work both ways.
here is what I want:
-cut unemployment benefits to like 26weeks
-make health care a personal choice, not mandatory.
-reduce foreign aids and reduce national debt first.

most other laws and policies I don't really care for one way or another.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Teaspoon » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:17 pm

superunature wrote:I wouldn't call it "Huge percentage". He has won like 25 delegates out of like 600 so far.
This is unfortunately chalked up to 2 things. The first being the demographic that goes out and votes. The 45+ crowd makes up the overwhelming majority of it, and they're the same loons that voted Bush to 8 years of office. The second problem is that the system is as idiotic as the electoral college. Just remember that we've had Presidents who received less votes but still got elected.

Romney and Santorum voters really do fascinate me though, as does the voting population as a whole. It's interesting that people have an overwhelming disdain for our government and how they do things, yet they knowingly keep electing the same kinds of people over and over again out of fear of drastic change. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the concept of anyone having trust and faith in our current political and economic system.
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Re: What is your preferred political ideology?

Post by Jack_Rav » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:38 pm

Teaspoon wrote:and they're the same loons that voted Bush to 8 years of office.
On social issues, I'd argue that all Republican supporters are loons.
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