[Cancelled]VOTING: 2015 Aquamarine Round ~ June 25

[avery-kun]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

Go Team Avery! And Mashiro. In hindsight I shouldn't have done that because of math, but oh wells. GO SHIRO!!

[exec]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[Fuijiwara]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[Homura]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[Just]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[smartboyhw]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[Kiwigiwi]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

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Necklace match: Voted for Yukino because she has the best chance of beating Shiro. Voted another for Chiyo because she's the one who deserves an award the most.
Pendant match: Voted for Archer because he has the best chance of beating Sora. Voted another for Hachiman because my boyfriend really likes him.
Alice + Tensai team is too godlike, I regret not being able to give them 100 votes. Whoever thought of these two as a team needs a medal

[Jiharo]

ARENA 01	雪ノ下雪乃	椎名ましろ	白	遠坂凛	小野寺小咲	結城明日奈	佐倉千代
ARENA 02	アーチャー	空	比企谷八幡	坂田銀時	上条当麻	一方通行	衛宮切嗣
ARENA 03	テルミヌス・エスト	アカメ	ラティファ・フルーランザ	七宮智音	ニャルラトホテプ	高坂桐乃	千石撫子
ARENA 04	赤坂龍之介, リタ・エインワーズ	キャスター, 葛木宗一郎
ARENA 05	ラティファ・フルーランザ, 藤宮香織	壱級天災, 紫苑寺有子（アリス）
ARENA 06	李小狼, 木之本桜	地場衛, 月野うさぎ
ARENA 07	ホライゾン・アリアダスト（P-01s）, ちぃ	ほしのゆめみ, ふらわー
ARENA 08	清水谷竜華, 園城寺怜	高山春香, 園田優

[Darkfairy]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[maglor]

ARENA 01	유키노시타 유키노	시이나 마시로	시로	토오사카 린	오노데라 코사키	유우키 아스나	사쿠라 치요
ARENA 02	아쳐	소라	히키가야 하치만	사카타 긴토키	카미조 토우마	액셀러레이터	에미야 키리츠구
ARENA 03	테르미누스 에스트	아카메	라티파 플뤄란자	시치미야 사토네	니알랏토텝	코우사카 키리노	센고쿠 나데코
ARENA 04	아카사카 류노스케, 리타 에인즈워스	케스터, 쿠즈키 소이치로
ARENA 05	라티파 플뤄란자, 후지미야 카오리	잇큐 텐사이, 시온지 유코 (앨리스)
ARENA 06	리 샤오란(이소랑), 키노모토 사쿠라 (유체리)	치바 마모루, 츠키노 우사기
ARENA 07	호라이존 아리아더스트 (P-01s), 치이	호시노 유메미, 플라워
ARENA 08	시미즈다니 류카, 온죠지 토키	타카야마 하루카, 소노다 유우

[maglor]

2. The Charter that contained 2 vote change was announced several month ago thus has underwent multiple reviews. It is too late to change it, especially since voting was supposed to start.

This change wasn't mentioned in either Structural Changes or Operational Changes thread last year, was it? Yes, now it's too late to even say something about it. Very nice. There are always more lessons for kids to learn.

Though we forgot to add it to last year's discussion, we did post the 2 vote change into the charter at the beginning of 2015. It has been up there for 5+ month now. Furthermore, the two vote change was discussed in 2015 Aquamarine general discussion thread.

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I am sorry if you didn't think this was handled properly, but it indeed is way too late. If we desire to revert it back to one vote for the necklace arena system, we have to do it in 2016.

[hinakatbklyn]

- Onodera for the necklace! Alternate plan, No Game no Life combo. Maybe next time Tohsaka and Archer.
- I voted for Latifah in the qualifier match but not the team match? Well..... Latifah and Tensai are equal priorities, but Tensai has a second support.

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[Bastion]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

Fate for the Majors, with Sakura support
Only think I know two qualifiers, but one I don't like the idea of voting for.

Rabbit and Guardian makes me think of another pair (Blue Seed; Momiji and Mamoru), the guy even has the family name of Mamoru (basically high rating Sailor Moon)

And Nanoha for the Fate connection XD

[CureRainbow]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

It was tough deciding between Yukino, Rin, and Kosaki, so I let the random chooser in Chatzy decide. I'm sorry Kosaki ;_;
As for MamoruxUsagi, I was more or less neutral to it in the first season of Sailor Moon, but the other seasons and Crystal (Crystal especially - they actually portrayed their relationship as much less like complete bickering rivals!) had me loving it. <3

[maglor]

1. That General Discussion thread proposal was modification to the already announced 2 votes in necklace match change. We already had it as 2 normal votes. The proposal was to change one of the 2 into anti-vote. That anti-vote proposal has been rejected.

Well. That would, be even worse. Doesn't change the fact that voting for two characters in match that only one can win is strange.

4. Two votes in necklace match rule was implemented due to having too few votes in large arena producing too great a fluctuation in results, and the accusations following wildly unexpected results fueled bitter rivalry between groups of fans. It also is vulnerable to all kinds of statistical anomalies like "King Effect" => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_effect" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; . We hope two vote system will lead to results that is more acceptable to larger proportion of voters.

Bassicaly it's experiment with unknown result. It can eliminate "King Effect" or make it even larger because people would vote for character that they like and one of two favourites to win a necklace. (When if they have only one vote they would have a dilemma).
Next year necklace match with STV?

The voting for two when only one can win do feel strange to many people, but when the number of candidates is large, and if percentage of votes received by top two candidates combined doesn't usually exceed the majority=50+%, allowing people to pick multiple candidates, even in the case there can be only one winner, usually will yield results that is more acceptable to more people. Last year in the last three necklace matches, the top finisher failed to receive 25% or more of the votes.

It is not an experiment with unknown results. We have great amount of data from cases where voters were allowed to pick up to two characters in 7 character arenas. The one of key criterion needed for "King Effect" is that each data entry is allowed to choose only one of the option. By allowing more than one option as valid choice, we eliminate the basic condition needed for the King Effect to arise. Also, we reduce the chance for "Pauper effect" to disproportionately hurt some characters. I am pretty confident the results and distribution of voting won't be very wild and erratic.

If you mean Single Transferable Vote, I would actually love the idea, but it will require greater tweaking of necklace formula and reduce the consideration of how tough the contestant's road was in reaching the necklace match. If too many people just can't get used to idea of stating their favorite TWO even though only ONE will win, we will discuss necklace match system again when 2015 regular season is over.

[RailWarrior]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[Curisu]

ARENA 01	雪ノ下雪乃	椎名ましろ	白	遠坂凛	小野寺小咲	結城明日奈	佐倉千代
ARENA 02	アーチャー	空	比企谷八幡	坂田銀時	上条当麻	一方通行	衛宮切嗣
ARENA 03	テルミヌス・エスト	アカメ	ラティファ・フルーランザ	七宮智音	ニャルラトホテプ	高坂桐乃	千石撫子
ARENA 04	赤坂龍之介, リタ・エインワーズ	キャスター, 葛木宗一郎
ARENA 05	ラティファ・フルーランザ, 藤宮香織	壱級天災, 紫苑寺有子（アリス）
ARENA 06	李小狼, 木之本桜	地場衛, 月野うさぎ
ARENA 07	ホライゾン・アリアダスト（P-01s）, ちぃ	ほしのゆめみ, ふらわー
ARENA 08	清水谷竜華, 園城寺怜	高山春香, 園田優

[kanohistorm]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[Chocola]

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

[kukimunstir]

Hey Alice

ARENA 01	Yukinoshita Yukino	Shiina Mashiro	Shiro	Tōsaka Rin	Onodera Kosaki	Yūki Asuna	Sakura Chiyo
ARENA 02	Archer	Sora	Hikigaya Hachiman	Sakata Gintoki	Kamijō Tōma	Accelerator	Emiya Kiritsugu
ARENA 03	Terminus Est	Akame	Latifa Fleuranza	Shichimiya Satone	Nyarlathotep	Kōsaka Kirino	Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 04	Akasaka Ryūnosuke, Rita Ainsworth	Caster, Kuzuki Sōichirō
ARENA 05	Latifa Fleuranza, Fujimiya Kaori	Ikkyū Tensai, Shionji Yūko (Alice)
ARENA 06	Li Syaoran, Kinomoto Sakura	Chiba Mamoru, Tsukino Usagi
ARENA 07	Horizon Ariadust (P-01s), Chii	Hoshino Yumemi, Flower
ARENA 08	Shimizudani Ryūka, Onjōji Toki	Takayama Haruka, Sonoda Yū

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....MAMO X REI!!!