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ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by Chocola » Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:01 pm

Starting next year, the following changes will take effect:
  1. There will be a new scoring method for during regular season:

    -All constestants start with 100 points.
    -Every time a contestant defeat another contestant, the winner will steal a percentage of the loser's points.
    -This scoring method will determine who will enter postseason. It does not determine necklace eligibility, which remains unchanged.

    -There are currently 2 models that the staff feels works best:
    Model 1: The steal percentage starts at 1% in Aquamarine 1 and ends at 35% in Topaz 7, with an increment of 1% each match.
    Model 2: The steal percentage is 15% for all of Aquamarine, 20% for Amethyst, ... , 35% for Topaz, which is a constant percentage throughout each period.
  2. The Necklace Formula will no longer use SDO, but rather PSAO.

    -PSAO is defined as Partial Score of All Opponents, and is calculated by (Pts/21)*SAO.
    -The formula will be PSAO/3 + NGP%, with NGP% being Necklace Group Percentage.
  3. The Male Division's jewelry will be the Pendant, and there will be 5 Pendants that are equivalent to Necklaces.

    -We will keep the Scepter as the grand final winner jewelry, equivalent to the Tiara.
    -All rules and regulations from the Necklace match will be copied over to the Pedant match.
    -ISML Graphics Staff Members A & M will be responsible for creating these posters.
  4. Postseason 1 tiebreakers will now have Head to Head. The order of tiebreakers are:

    a. Most wins during Phase I
    b. Most wins against Contestants with the same number or greater number of wins within Phase I
    c. Head-to-head win minus Head-to-head loss among those tied after above condition
    d. Regular Season ranking using points.
    e. PSAO
  5. CAPTCHA will now tell you whether your answer is wrong.

    Simply put, you will no longer worry if your ballot is counted. If the answer is wrong, you can try again.
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by maglor » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:56 pm

PSAO was adopted in order to make the necklace match more competitive for characters with one or two loss.

A good example is 2014 Emerald Period. Below table shows how PSAO value would have been for 2014 Emerald Period Necklace Match contestants. Now the gap between characters, overall, is much smaller.

Name : Pts : SAO : PSAO : SDO : NEW Percentage gap (%) : 2014 formula's gap (%)
Yūki Asuna : 21 : 90.679 : 90.679 : 90.679 : 0 : 0
Itsuka Kotori : 21 : 85.178 : 85.178 : 85.178 : -2.7505 : -2.500454545
Yoshino : 21 : 82.598 : 82.598 : 82.598 : -4.0405 : -3.673181818
Tokisaki Kurumi : 18.981 : 83.133 : 75.14035586 : 62.133 : -7.769322071 : -12.97545455
Shiina Mashiro : 21 : 84.74 : 84.74 : 84.74 : -2.9695 : -2.699545455
Aisaka Taiga : 18.933 : 88.29 : 79.59974143 : 69.602 : -5.539629286 : -9.580454545
Nakano Azusa : 18.854 : 85.567 : 76.82286752 : 64.567 : -6.928066238 : -11.86909091

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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by Srysama » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:11 pm

So the Winners Gallery will add pendant posters?
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by Sphire » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:35 pm

Maybe I should have read this before replying to the structural change thread, although I didn't really say much.

Point 3 and 4 seem fairly straight forward.

Point 1 sounds cool, although it does seem like it is giving a lot more 'value' to later wins than earlier wins (regardless of model). Maybe this is to encourage voters to remain voting throughout RS? Model 2 'sounds' fairer, given that say the biggest difference in steal percentage is 20%, while with Model 1 it is 34% (28% between Topaz R7 and Aqua R7). It's also probably fairer to whoever ends up being the wildcard character. Can't say I have a huge grasp of it, so I'll just have to see how it plays out.

Edit: I just got how it doesn't afect necklace eligibility.

As for Point 2, can't really say much about it. It didn't affect things much in Emerald 2014, but if its usage would've meant Kuroyukihime would've lost the Ruby necklace, well, that would be a shame for future necklaces. The characters that gained the most were those that lost 1 match compared to the lossless characters. Just dunno if that is a good thing personally.
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by dczmydc » Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:02 am

Could you please explain how to steal pts from the loser?
If A and B has 100 pts and A beats B with 6000-4000, how will the pts changes?
I'm just wondering why it's only 1% for AQ1 and 35% for T7...Does it mean that T7 is 35 times more important than AQ1?
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by Homura » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:14 am

Model 2 sounds fairer to me. As for point 2, Azusa may now have a chance. Next year looks like the beginning of the third era.
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by matchbaby » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:50 am

Why don't you guys use the reverse Model 2?
Higher % in aq, lower % in topaz,
So, result in aq still affect a little.


As the fact is if we use constant %, the weighting of topaz still much large.
so, I suggest aq 35% ---> topaz 15%
If someone performs better in topaz, she can still get into PS1, even using the reversed model 2.
Also, if someone was sniped all way though the Topaz period, she can still get into PS1 as 15% is not that much.
Isn't this better?

Btw, if we don't have flat bonus, why do we change the SDO system? It's meaningless...


EDIT:
I dry run the 2014 score,
why don't you use constant=0.25 though out the Regular Season?
I think this is better and affected less by the match. Also Illya character who are strong in Topaz can also get into ps1.
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by Homura » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:23 am

Reverse model 2 sounds good to me, or try to put the peak percentage in ruby.
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by matchbaby » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:25 am

Homura wrote:Reverse model 2 sounds good to me, or try to put the peak percentage in ruby.
Sorry, reverse model 2 is not much difference from this year's ranking, so I drop it and choose constant though out the season...
The main reason is Illya can only get rank 19 but she can get rank 16 in the constant stealing score system
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by Homura » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:27 am

matchbaby wrote:
Homura wrote:Reverse model 2 sounds good to me, or try to put the peak percentage in ruby.
Sorry, reverse model 2 is not much difference from this year's ranking, so I drop it and choose constant though out the season...
The main reason is Illya can only get rank 19
or make the gap between the max and min smaller than 10% ?
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by matchbaby » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:28 am

Homura wrote:
matchbaby wrote:
Homura wrote:Reverse model 2 sounds good to me, or try to put the peak percentage in ruby.
Sorry, reverse model 2 is not much difference from this year's ranking, so I drop it and choose constant though out the season...
The main reason is Illya can only get rank 19
or make the gap between the max and min smaller than 10% ?
If so, I think constant is better...
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by Chocola » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:32 am

So there seems to be a bit of misunderstanding here. Model 1 does not make Topaz 5 35 times more important than Aquamarine 1, but rather somewhat equivalent. Any change in Aquamarine 1 will propagate throughout the entire tournament. Think of it as compound interest. I can charge you 35% interest up front, or 1% compounded 35 times, which ends up at a higher value. Because of that, Aquamarine percentages has to stay small or else an "upset" win in Aquamarine 7 can be blown out of proportions and never normalize.

While constant seems like a good idea at a glance, the sliding scale from 1% to 35% is mathematically most fair. By choosing Model 2, you are accepting the fact that Aquamarine matches are more important than Topaz matches. This is why the idea is rejected. In Model 2, an upset in Aquamarine 7 match is very likely to be much more important than an upset in Topaz 7, because it will eventually affect all contestants, whereas an upset in Topaz 7 is just one event.
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by matchbaby » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:36 am

for someone who are interested
Model 1Show
Itsuka Kotori 1
Yoshino 2
Yūki Asuna 3
Tokisaki Kurumi 4
Kuroyukihime 5
Chitanda Eru 6
Takanashi Rikka 7
Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko 8
Kurousagi 9
Yatogami Tōka 10
Aoyama Nanami 11
Azuki Azusa 12
Nibutani Shinka 13
Yaya 14
Yukinoshita Yukino 15
Momo Belia Deviluke 16
Yūki Mikan 17
Kirigaya Suguha 18
Takanashi Tōka 19
Kuriyama Mirai 20
Yui 21
Shokuhō Misaki 22
Tobiichi Origami 23
Himeragi Yukina 24
Natsume Rin 25
Haqua du Lot Herminium 26
Chocolat 27
Dekomori Sanae 28
Laura Bodewig 29
Shirakiin Ririchiyo 30
Nyarlathotep 31
Nōmi Kudryavka 32
Charlotte Belew 33
Shiomiya Shiori 34
Yukihira Furano 35
Roromiya Karuta 36

Misaka Mikoto 1
Shiina Mashiro 2
Tachibana Kanade 3
Eucliwood Hellscythe 4
Shana 5
Aisaka Taiga 6
Aragaki Ayase 7
Nakano Azusa 8
Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) 9
Yuzuriha Inori 10
Akiyama Mio 11
Nakamura Yuri 12
Suzumiya Haruhi 13
Yui-nyan 14
Illyasviel von Einzbern 15
Hasegawa Kobato 16
Saber 17
Kashiwazaki Sena 18
Konjiki no Yami 19
Oshino Shinobu 20
Makise Kurisu 21
Kasugano Sora 22
Hirasawa Yui 23
Nagato Yuki 24
Charlotte Dunois 25
Last Order 26
Kōsaka Kirino 27
Victorique de Blois 28
Katsura Hinagiku 29
Honma Meiko 30
Senjōgahara Hitagi 31
Kirishima Shōko 32
Tōwa Erio 33
Mikazuki Yozora 34
Iwasawa Masami 35
Sengoku Nadeko 36

very bad becuz Kanade is 3rd, impossible for her as she only lose 1 match but rank lower than Mashiro.
Model 2Show
Itsuka Kotori 1
Yoshino 2
Yūki Asuna 3
Tokisaki Kurumi 4
Kuroyukihime 5
Chitanda Eru 6
Takanashi Rikka 7
Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko 8
Yatogami Tōka 9
Kurousagi 10
Aoyama Nanami 11
Azuki Azusa 12
Nibutani Shinka 13
Yaya 14
Yukinoshita Yukino 15
Momo Belia Deviluke 16
Yūki Mikan 17
Kirigaya Suguha 18
Kuriyama Mirai 19
Takanashi Tōka 20
Shokuhō Misaki 21
Yui 22
Natsume Rin 23
Tobiichi Origami 24
Himeragi Yukina 25
Haqua du Lot Herminium 26
Chocolat 27
Dekomori Sanae 28
Laura Bodewig 29
Shirakiin Ririchiyo 30
Nyarlathotep 31
Nōmi Kudryavka 32
Charlotte Belew 33
Shiomiya Shiori 34
Yukihira Furano 35
Roromiya Karuta 36

Misaka Mikoto 1
Tachibana Kanade 2
Shiina Mashiro 3
Eucliwood Hellscythe 4
Shana 5
Aisaka Taiga 6
Aragaki Ayase 7
Nakano Azusa 8
Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) 9
Yuzuriha Inori 10
Akiyama Mio 11
Nakamura Yuri 12
Illyasviel von Einzbern 13
Suzumiya Haruhi 14
Hasegawa Kobato 15
Yui-nyan 16
Saber 17
Oshino Shinobu 18
Kashiwazaki Sena 19
Konjiki no Yami 20
Makise Kurisu 21
Kasugano Sora 22
Hirasawa Yui 23
Nagato Yuki 24
Charlotte Dunois 25
Last Order 26
Kōsaka Kirino 27
Victorique de Blois 28
Katsura Hinagiku 29
Senjōgahara Hitagi 30
Honma Meiko 31
Kirishima Shōko 32
Tōwa Erio 33
Mikazuki Yozora 34
Iwasawa Masami 35
Sengoku Nadeko 36

bad, if so, why don't we ONLY use the topaz period result?
Suguha 18th? WTF is that? possible?
reversed Model 2Show
Itsuka Kotori 1
Yoshino 2
Yūki Asuna 3
Tokisaki Kurumi 4
Kuroyukihime 5
Takanashi Rikka 6
Chitanda Eru 7
Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko 8
Yatogami Tōka 9
Aoyama Nanami 10
Kurousagi 11
Nibutani Shinka 12
Azuki Azusa 13
Yaya 14
Yukinoshita Yukino 15
Momo Belia Deviluke 16
Takanashi Tōka 17
Yūki Mikan 18
Kuriyama Mirai 19
Natsume Rin 20
Haqua du Lot Herminium 21
Yui 22
Kirigaya Suguha 23
Shokuhō Misaki 24
Tobiichi Origami 25
Chocolat 26
Dekomori Sanae 27
Himeragi Yukina 28
Nyarlathotep 29
Shirakiin Ririchiyo 30
Laura Bodewig 31
Nōmi Kudryavka 32
Charlotte Belew 33
Shiomiya Shiori 34
Yukihira Furano 35
Roromiya Karuta 36

Misaka Mikoto 1
Tachibana Kanade 2
Shiina Mashiro 3
Eucliwood Hellscythe 4
Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) 5
Aisaka Taiga 6
Aragaki Ayase 7
Shana 8
Nakano Azusa 9
Akiyama Mio 10
Yuzuriha Inori 11
Yui-nyan 12
Nakamura Yuri 13
Saber 14
Hasegawa Kobato 15
Suzumiya Haruhi 16
Oshino Shinobu 17
Kashiwazaki Sena 18
Illyasviel von Einzbern 19
Konjiki no Yami 20
Makise Kurisu 21
Hirasawa Yui 22
Kasugano Sora 23
Nagato Yuki 24
Charlotte Dunois 25
Victorique de Blois 26
Kōsaka Kirino 27
Last Order 28
Katsura Hinagiku 29
Senjōgahara Hitagi 30
Kirishima Shōko 31
Honma Meiko 32
Tōwa Erio 33
Mikazuki Yozora 34
Sengoku Nadeko 35
Iwasawa Masami 36

bad, as this is nearly as same as the current ranking
constantShow
Itsuka Kotori 1
Yoshino 2
Yūki Asuna 3
Tokisaki Kurumi 4
Kuroyukihime 5
Takanashi Rikka 6
Chitanda Eru 7
Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko 8
Yatogami Tōka 9
Kurousagi 10
Aoyama Nanami 11
Nibutani Shinka 12
Azuki Azusa 13
Yaya 14
Yukinoshita Yukino 15
Momo Belia Deviluke 16
Yūki Mikan 17
Takanashi Tōka 18
Kuriyama Mirai 19
Kirigaya Suguha 20
Natsume Rin 21
Yui 22
Shokuhō Misaki 23
Tobiichi Origami 24
Haqua du Lot Herminium 25
Himeragi Yukina 26
Chocolat 27
Dekomori Sanae 28
Nyarlathotep 29
Shirakiin Ririchiyo 30
Laura Bodewig 31
Nōmi Kudryavka 32
Charlotte Belew 33
Shiomiya Shiori 34
Yukihira Furano 35
Roromiya Karuta 36

Misaka Mikoto 1
Tachibana Kanade 2
Shiina Mashiro 3
Eucliwood Hellscythe 4
Shana 5
Aisaka Taiga 6
Aragaki Ayase 7
Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) 8
Nakano Azusa 9
Akiyama Mio 10
Yuzuriha Inori 11
Nakamura Yuri 12
Yui-nyan 13
Hasegawa Kobato 14
Suzumiya Haruhi 15
Illyasviel von Einzbern 16
Saber 17
Oshino Shinobu 18
Kashiwazaki Sena 19
Konjiki no Yami 20
Makise Kurisu 21
Kasugano Sora 22
Hirasawa Yui 23
Nagato Yuki 24
Charlotte Dunois 25
Kōsaka Kirino 26
Victorique de Blois 27
Last Order 28
Katsura Hinagiku 29
Senjōgahara Hitagi 30
Honma Meiko 31
Kirishima Shōko 32
Tōwa Erio 33
Mikazuki Yozora 34
Iwasawa Masami 35
Sengoku Nadeko 36

Personally, I think it's good as the ranking is not that chaos, but still we can see the difference from the current ranking
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by Chocola » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:38 am

@matchbaby: You are completely missing the point. We adopt this system to ENCOURAGE sniping and chaos, which will be normalized by the Swiss system in Postseason 1. We're not looking for a compromise. We're looking for full blown chaos.
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Post by matchbaby » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:07 am

ok, after discussing with KS in chatroom, I support model 1.

That's end of my concern ._.

Kholdy-tan is a math god. (edited by KS) :arrowed:
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by Homura » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:08 am

Kholdy wrote:@matchbaby: You are completely missing the point. We adopt this system to ENCOURAGE sniping and chaos, which will be normalized by the Swiss system in Postseason 1. We're not looking for a compromise. We're looking for full blown chaos.
Does full blown chaos mean massive miracle here? and what if some "wrong" contestants make into PS1 before we even get a chance to normalize (then many voters get mad) ?
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Post by matchbaby » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:10 am

Homura wrote:
Kholdy wrote:@matchbaby: You are completely missing the point. We adopt this system to ENCOURAGE sniping and chaos, which will be normalized by the Swiss system in Postseason 1. We're not looking for a compromise. We're looking for full blown chaos.
Does full blown chaos mean massive miracles here? and what if some "wrong" contestants make into PS1 before we even get a chance to normalize (then many voters get mad) ?
That's what we want
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Post by Homura » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:23 am

matchbaby wrote:
Homura wrote:
Kholdy wrote:@matchbaby: You are completely missing the point. We adopt this system to ENCOURAGE sniping and chaos, which will be normalized by the Swiss system in Postseason 1. We're not looking for a compromise. We're looking for full blown chaos.
Does full blown chaos mean massive miracle here? and what if some "wrong" contestants make into PS1 before we even get a chance to normalize (then many voters get mad) ?
That's what we want
Fine, this sounds good to me now. I'm just a bit worried that we may get more than 5 unqualified postseasoners.
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Post by matchbaby » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:04 am

btw, someone concern about the "compound interest", it is not fair.
As this is not linear, if you really want to make the point system weigh better, use the exponential curve.

Can you explain this clearly?
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Re: ISML 2015 - Operational Changes

Post by RailWarrior » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:26 pm

Illya would have gotten into PS? Totally in support of either change.
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