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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Juice » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:02 am

I didn't say monday. I said a Round 4.

NOW I know why KS complains much.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Chocola » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:03 am

Then we have a switch of interests within our ISML voters. Simple.

And no, Shana was expected to beat Fate by that much without the RM faction, and maria by much more. But then again, all of what you said is bitter Fate-loving denial talk, so it's not even an argument.
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I rest my case.

EDIT: But speaking of Mondays in general, they usually don't get this much votes. The Mondays that do get an increase in voters recently were the days where Hinagiku and Nagi raped. Sounds like a faction to me. Coincidentally, Maria came close to Shana on a Monday.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by amdrag » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:10 am

KholdStare88 wrote:It doesn't matter who wins in the future because all it matters is what happened. And for the last few matches, there was some HnG support. People get tired of voting, etc... Aside from the RM faction, which was special because of the Suigintou/Shinku support, I know of no other faction who supports all characters in a series equally. All I can say is that there is consistent HnG support.

If I recall, someone who is #23 losing by 300 to #1 would be considered "something." Shana beat Fate by 478.
I have no idea where the votes came from, so I assumed those were more anti-Shana votes than anything else. Oh, and I miss so many points, they call me the anti-pin-cushion.

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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Demi. » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:15 am

KholdStare88 wrote:Then we have a switch of interests within our ISML voters. Simple.

And no, Shana was expected to beat Fate by that much without the RM faction, and maria by much more. But then again, all of what you said is bitter Fate-loving denial talk, so it's not even an argument.
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I rest my case.

EDIT: But speaking of Mondays in general, they usually don't get this much votes. The Mondays that do get an increase in voters recently were the days where Hinagiku and Nagi raped. Sounds like a faction to me. Coincidentally, Maria came close to Shana on a Monday.
Even if Shana was predicted to beat Fate it doesn't matter. RM faction has skewed character strength by so much that performance ratings don't have a shred of reliability. Atleast not within the top 20.

As I said, unless I see Japanese voters in this contest, the Saimoe theory just doesn't work. Saimoe is virtually 90% Japanese voters. And if 2ch were the cause, Nanoha characters would have a pretty huge boost as well. Even if they're not eligible this year, they're very popular among 2ch and Japan in general.

Emerald 4 match had but 5 votes fewer.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Chocola » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:22 am

Ah, so now you're back to "blame RM faction for every upset or abnormal patterns in voting," which means we've come back to the RM faction discussion. Unfortunately, that also means you've ran out of convincing arguments, so I suggest that you stop or send me a PM that I will not answer and promptly delete.

There are only a few series with great demographic differences, mainly Bamboo Blade and Rozen Maiden. Hayate no Gotoku has support worldwide, most notably Korea, now Japan, and it has always been present in the West. But I see lots of Japanese voters in ISML through votechecking. If 10% of the non-Japanese voters from Saimoe voters in ISML then 5% more Japanese voters vote in ISML, that's 15%, way more than the RM faction.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Demi. » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:26 am

There is no 5% Japanese voting in ISML, and to say every non-Japanese voter voting in Saimoe is also voting in ISML is much lamer then me blaming everything on the RM faction...Is that's what you're saying. Kind of confused me there.

Unless Google Analytics is lieing, of course. But It's showing 40 hits at most. Assuming none of those are multiple hits, that makes 40 voters.

@Juice: Check Emerald 4.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Chocola » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:32 am

You stopped making sense.

Save your breath to argue against other things. But the fact remains. HnG is stronger in this competition, consistently.

@Emerald 4: One example doesn't dismiss a generalization or average. How many Mondays have we had until now and Emerald 4 is just one of them?
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Demi. » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:37 am

I'de like to think the average voters would increase, even if just slightly...Within a 20+ day period. Emerald 4 to Ruby 4 had no increase. I wouldn't even begin to get why one monday to the next should have a different influence on vote totals, though.

My point was, there is no 5% of Japanese voters in ISML.

However, if HnG is consistently stronger, then you should have no trouble agreeing that they should stay consistently strong all the way to the end of Ruby. I'll even accept Hina losing to Tomoyo... But if Nagi or Hinagiku are outright raped in one of their coming matches, I'm not going to buy into your theory.

...But I'm saving my breath. Argueing over the same thing is tedious even for me.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Motoyama » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:39 am

Was Fate/stay night any good? Tosaka is pretty moe imo, might watch the animu.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Chocola » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:41 am

Well of course if Nagi or Hina gets outright raped, then my theory is wrong.

But there's no way for Hinagiku to beat Tomoyo, even in her current state. It's Tomoyo.

@Motoyama:

FSN the anime is good to an extent, which is to me enjoyable, above average, and I don't regret watching it. I'm confused about why Saber is falling and Rin is rising as well. It seems like a complete flip-flop. And no, I'm not asking Demi. why this is.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Demi. » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:48 am

KholdStare88 wrote:Well of course if Nagi or Hina gets outright raped, then my theory is wrong.

But there's no way for Hinagiku to beat Tomoyo, even in her current state. It's Tomoyo.

@Motoyama:

FSN the anime is good to an extent, which is to me enjoyable, above average, and I don't regret watching it. I'm confused about why Saber is falling and Rin is rising as well. It seems like a complete flip-flop. And no, I'm not asking Demi. why this is.
Lol, I was so ready to give you the answer until i read that final bit... ._.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by amdrag » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:51 am

KholdStare88 wrote:But the fact remains. HnG is stronger in this competition, consistently.
Stronger than RM, or just stronger in general? My ability to pick up context at midnight is nil.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Demi. » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:53 am

amdrag wrote:
KholdStare88 wrote:But the fact remains. HnG is stronger in this competition, consistently.
Stronger than RM, or just stronger in general? My ability to pick up context at midnight is nil.
I think he's referring to them being stronger than they were before.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Chocola » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:54 am

Just stronger in general. I'm not crazy enough to compare HnG to RM at the moment. This is what I want, of course, for Hinagiku to get into the top 16. Her next match will be against Nanoha and...

Let's say I hope Hinagiku win because Nanoha is already entrenched.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Demi. » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:55 am

I wish that were true...
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by chaosprophet » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:29 pm

Congratz to Fate, Yuki, Rika and Nagi for winning this round. Eva losing today was expected, unfortunately.
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Motoyama wrote:Was Fate/stay night any good? Tosaka is pretty moe imo, might watch the animu.
FSN the anime is good to an extent, which is to me enjoyable, above average, and I don't regret watching it. I'm confused about why Saber is falling and Rin is rising as well. It seems like a complete flip-flop. And no, I'm not asking Demi. why this is.
I would second KS comment. For me it was more very good though. Now while the anime is very good the visual novel is more complete and even greater IMO. If you like visual novels I would recommend playing it too.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Talec » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:50 pm

Fantastic Results as usually.
I'm especially surprised as Hinagikus real power now unseals more and more.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by chaosprophet » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:23 pm

Talec wrote:
Fate wrote:I expect the winning results from Fate's untainted & pure side.
Can you atleast make ONE post without "fate" written in it?
That's impossible... his user name is Fate after all.
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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by kat360360 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:23 pm

KholdStare88 wrote:this thread.

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Re: RESULTS - Ruby 4

Post by Fate » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:03 pm

Motoyama wrote:Was Fate/stay night any good? Tosaka is pretty moe imo, might watch the animu.
The anime is decent but not on-par with other classics or contemporary shows. I've played and beaten the visual novel and didn't think I'd like that more than the anime, but I ended up highly enjoying that more.
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Can you atleast make ONE post without "fate" written in it?
That's impossible... his user name is Fate after all.
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