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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by hinakatbklyn » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:45 pm

It wasn't Aoyama, but still a good winner (that I supported) for once.
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Toady » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:12 am

Chibasa wrote: However, we have more players now and that imbalance a bit how necklace round should work. I think I'll maybe adjust how I calculate score.

Actually it is:
Score is calculated like this: 3(P/2)+VD+3(VF/5)+8(S/X).
P= Points. S= score a character got with votes. X= number of players in necklace round.
Basically S/X is the average vote.
And I think I'll go for:
Score is calculated like this: 3(P/2)+VD+3(VF/5)+12(S/X).
P= Points. S= score a character got with votes. X= number of players in necklace round.
Basically S/X is the average vote.
Let me know what you think about.
I would increase even more the importance of the Necklace Round. Because of strategy, people tend to vote more and more to increase the gap between the contestants for the Necklace and then the Necklace Round becomes boring. Generally, only the two first have a chance to win, or only the first one in the case of Levi :p
I would use 20(S/X). It may give some interest to the Necklace Round.
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Chibasa » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:00 am

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0 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 0
0 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
0 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 0
0 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 0
0 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 0
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 0
Match Proposals:
Chelsea > Yusa Emi
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Hoshii Miki > Sharon Rainsworth
Kuroyukihime > Asuna
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Homura » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:23 am

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0 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 0
1 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
1 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 0
1 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 0
0 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 0
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 1
Chelsea > Yusa Emi
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Reverse
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa - Confirm
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki - Confirm
Hoshii Miki > Sharon Rainsworth
Kuroyukihime > Asuna - Confirm

Match Proposals
Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by houreki » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:26 am

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0 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 1
1 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
1 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 1
2 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 0
0 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 0
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 1
Yusa Emi > Chelsea [confirm]
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa [reverse]
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki [confirm]
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna [disable]

Match Proposals
Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by mazza411 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:47 pm

As expected, no one comes close to challenging Levi. While not my absolute favorite, Ririchiyo's win is a nice result :) By that last point, Hitagi needed 3(?) of the 5 non-Ririchiyo/Hitagi '5' votes to win the necklace. If Hitagi and 8man continue their trajectory, then maybe they can secure Waterfall (if not, then maybe they are the Differentstory's "forever bridesmaid").
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Actually it is:
Score is calculated like this: 3(P/2)+VD+3(VF/5)+8(S/X).
P= Points. S= score a character got with votes. X= number of players in necklace round.
Basically S/X is the average vote.
And I think I'll go for:
Score is calculated like this: 3(P/2)+VD+3(VF/5)+12(S/X).
P= Points. S= score a character got with votes. X= number of players in necklace round.
Basically S/X is the average vote.
Let me know what you think about.
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With more people playing, VD can not change a lot but VF sure change a lot and so, score before necklace round is higher than I could expect at the start of the game. So Necklace round have less impact now that during Snow Period, that's why I'd like to change necklace round value.

That could also increases suspense (for example, this time Kinomoto Sakura was a bit far from Ririchiyo and Hitagi, she needed 1,1 more average score than them, with new rule she would need only 0,74 which is approximately the difference between worst and best result (0,8 here))
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I think the effect would be much less than you anticipate. At current score, with a multiplier of 12 Sakura would need an average of 3.09 to beat Ririchiyo, meaning that she would need to perform better than Levi did in the Necklace round (ie. more than half of voters would need to give her 5). As a third place base score going into the necklace round, this is unlikely to happen ever. In order to give the necklace round the balance you're hoping for, you would need to increase the multipler so much that there would be little to no point having the other rounds (eg. in Toady's example).

This change will diminish the value and purpose of the other rounds. I suspect this would have the opposite effect than you're intending since giving "regular season" less impact may decrease voters. It may also create more reason for "factions" to appear (like in isml) since there are not enough people participating to even out the difference yet. That is, if a faction decided to not vote in the regular matches, that would give even more strength to the necklace round; if they have the majority/are the most united, then they will secure a necklace for their favorite easily with your new formula. Presently, it requires both voting in normal matches and the necklace match to make an impact.
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1 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 1
2 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
1 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 1
2 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 0
1 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 0
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 1
Yusa Emi > Chelsea - reverse
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi - confirm
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui - disable
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki - confirm
Kuroyukihime > Asuna

Match Proposals
Chelsea > Yusa Emi
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Kiwigiwi » Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:13 pm

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1 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 2
3 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
1 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 1
2 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 0
1 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 0
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 2
Chelsea > Yusa Emi (Reverse)
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi (Confirm)
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo (Disable)
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna (Confirm)

Match Proposals
Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo v.s Miniwa Tsumiki
Hoshii Miki > Sharon Rainsworth
Kuroyukihime > Asuna

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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Fuijiwara » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:25 pm

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1 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 4
3 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
1 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 1
2 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 0
1 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 3



Yusa Emi > Chelsea ( Double )
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo v.s Miniwa Tsumiki
Hoshii Miki > Sharon Rainsworth ( Confirm )
Kuroyukihime > Asuna ( Confirm )

Match Proposal
Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Hoshii Miki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > KYH
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by hinakatbklyn » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:00 pm

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1 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 5
4 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
1 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 1
2 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 0
2 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 3

Yusa Emi > Chelsea (confirm)
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi (confirm)
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Hoshii Miki > Sharon Rainsworth ( Reverse )
Asuna > Kuroyukihime (Disable)

Match Proposal
Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Asuna > Kuroyukihime
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Chibasa » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:46 pm

Not a vote post:
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The idea is not to give full power to necklace round (to determinate who will get necklace), I like the idea that RS play an important role in it, and it the exact same thing as real ISML, some necklace contestant can't really do it. However the balance there was at the start of the game is broken with new players arriving, and it gives more power to RS. I just want to came back to initial balance.

So it would not influence factions creations, I think.
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Kurobako » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:00 pm

I've noticed that some rounds can have as few as 4-5 voters; if the majority of matches had that, would that throw the formular off? What balance factor was originally wanted?
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2 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 5
5 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
1 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 1
3 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 0
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 3
Yusa Emi > Chelsea [reverse]
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi [confirm]
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki [confirm]
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki [confirm]
Asuna > Kuroyukihime

Match Proposal
Chelsea > Yusa Emi
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Momo » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:07 pm

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4 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 5
5 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
2 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 1
3 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 0
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 4
Chelsea > Yusa Emi - Double
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa - Confirm
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna - Confirm

Match Proposal
Chelsea > Yusa Emi
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna

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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by instrern2 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:23 pm

Don't think changing to 12 will do much. Any number you add might make rank 3-5 more competitive but it makes 1-2 stronger too. 1-2 are there because people strongly support them so are most likely to get 5/3 in NM. You need something to boost scores 1/2/3 or change balance of Pts/VD/VF more
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6 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 5
5 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
3 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 1
3 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 1
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 4
Chelsea > Yusa emi - double
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa - confirm
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo - confirm
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna

Match Proposal
Chelsea > Yusa Emi
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Desufire » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:35 pm

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6 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 6
5 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 0
4 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 1
3 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 2
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 5
Chelsea > Yusa Emi [Reverse]
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa [Confirm]
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo [Confirm]
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii Miki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna [Confirm]

Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > Kuroyukihime
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Grish » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:35 pm

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6 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 6
5 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 2
4 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 2
4 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 2
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 5
Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo [Double]
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui [Confirm]
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki [Confirm]
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > Kuroyukihime

Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii MIki
Asuna > Kuroyukihime
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Toady » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:22 pm

Actually, the factor multiplying the mean score of the Necklace Match could be a function of the number of votes during the period. Or a function of the number of points of the best contestant before the Necklace Match. Or something similar.
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6 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 7
5 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 2
4 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 4
5 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 2
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 5
Yusa Emi > Chelsea [Confirm]
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui [Double]
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki [Confirm]
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii MIki
Asuna > Kuroyukihime

Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > Kuroyukihime
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by WoodyMC » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:29 pm

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6 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 9
5 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 2
4 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 5
6 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 2
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
0 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 5


Yusa Emi > Chelsea (Double)
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui (Confirm)
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki (Confirm)
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > Kuroyukihime

Yusa Emi > Chelsea
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > Kuroyukihime
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by oneoshron » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:31 am

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7 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 9
5 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 3
4 Yuigahama Yui - Nakano Azusa 5
6 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 2
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
1 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 5
Yusa Emi > Chelsea - (reverse)
Ichinose Kotomi > Shirakiin Ririchiyo -(confirm)
Nakano Azusa > Yuigahama Yui
Sakura Chiyo > Miniwa Tsumiki
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth - (disable)
Asuna > Kuroyukihime - (confirm)

Chelsea > Yusa Emi
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > Kuroyukihime
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by lischan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:40 am

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9 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 9
5 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 3
5 Yui - Nakano Azusa 5
6 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 3
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
1 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 5
Chelsea > Yusa Emi ( double )
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa ( confirm)
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo ( confirm)
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > Kuroyukihime

Chelsea > Yusa Emi
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > Kuroyukihime
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Re: Game: ISML, The Different Story

Post by Exxin » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:49 am

I forgot to vote but amazing results and brilliant poster!
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11 Chelsea - Yusa Emi 9
6 Shirakiin Ririchiyo - Ichinose Kotomi 3
6 Yui - Nakano Azusa 5
6 Sakura Chiyo - Miniwa Tsumiki 3
3 Sharon Rainsworth - Hoshii Miki 1
1 Asuna - Kuroyukihime 5
Chelsea > Yusa emi {double}
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi {confirm}
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa {confirm}
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo
Hoshii MIki > Sharon Rainsworth
Asuna > Kuroyukihime

Chelsea > Yusa Emi
Shirakiin Ririchiyo > Ichinose Kotomi
Yuigahama Yui > Nakano Azusa
Miniwa Tsumiki > Sakura Chiyo
Sharon Rainsworth > Hoshii MIki
Kuroyukihime > Asuna
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