4th Holy Grail War (End)

Are you bored waiting for results or that next match day? Start or play a game here! Note that your post count will not increase in this forum.
User avatar
Chibasa
[You can (not) Zura]
[You can (not) Zura]
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Yamada Naoko
Melon Pan: 120
2018 Female Favorite: Nishimiya Shōko
2018 Male Favorite: Kyon
2017 Female Favorite: Kasumigaoka Utaha
2017 Male Favorite: Okazaki Tomoya
Wish: Creating the best card game
Location: France

4th Holy Grail War (End)

Post by Chibasa » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:54 pm

I'm bit tired, hope I forgot nothing, I wait your impressions/feedback on this first version.

Rules:
Players will be divided into two teams: Red and Black. Under normal circumstances, the players will not be told who their allies are.

Each team member will receive a class at random. Each class has a different ability, listed below. Classes can appeared many times in the game.

The goal of the game is to kill all players of the opposing team. This will occur as follows: at each voting round, all players still alive are to PM GM with the name of a player they wish to vote off. GM will PM the two Assassins of the top ?* of the result of the voting and the amount of votes they get, but both Assassin(s) may only choose to kill one of the top two person. Note that because players do not know their teammates, the killed off player may be a team member. For this reason, Assassin may elect to take no action if he/she does not trust the vote.

*: Votes shown will be equal to: Alive players/2 (rounded down)

Note that Assassin is a bonus role assigned to a player in addition to a normal class role.

Each voting round normally lasts 24 hours, counted from GM's notification post regarding the start of the round. In a voting round, players may elect who they hope to kill & use their abilities if available, which will take effect in the following round, unless stated otherwise. In case of tardiness, the GM may elect to include or not include the late vote/change of vote. The GM will notify should he/she decides to end a voting round & discard a vote/change of vote due to tardiness.

The rounds will be followed by an intermediate Assassin Phase, where the Assassins choose their targets. GM will also reconfirm each Assassins' choice before closing the phase. In case of slow PM/no PM, GM has the right to assume that the person in question is abstain. (But please do reply if you choose not to kill. Don't drag out the game.)

The classes and their respective ability are as follows:
  • Saber - Passive: This player starts with two lives.
    Active: As long as Saber has two lives and has not yet been identified by Ruler or Caster, Saber may choose to reveal his/her identity to everyone and sacrifice one life to reveal the identity of a random enemy. The enemy's identity will be sent to Saber via PM.
  • Archer - Passive: This player may cast two votes.
    Active: Each round, Archer may PM me the name of a player. The declared player has his/her active ability sealed for the current round. Announced.
  • Lancer - Passive: If Lancer successfully used his ability, he automatically bury corpse and learn his wanna-be-assassin full identity.
    Active: This player has the option to PM me with the following message: "I think I will be killed." If this prediction is correct, his assailant is killed instead. 2 rounds cooldown (1 if successful). Lancer's ability will not be announced when used.
  • Rider - Passive: If this player has a plurality of the vote, his vote count will be reduced by 50% (rounded up). These votes are redistributed to the second and third place players, In case of odd number, the third player will get the extra 1 vote.
    Active: Rider will dodge the very first ability casted upon him/her during the whole course of the game. Berserker active & Assassination excluded. Announced.
  • Caster - Passive: Caster gets to know what roles are in play before the start of the game.
    Active: Caster (full) reveal himself to reveal to everyone. In exchange he'll reveal who were assassins (player+team, not role) last round. (Can't be cast round 1)
  • Berserker - Passive: If Berserker is killed, the killer is also killed. This occurs regardless of who kills Berserker. (Count as once/game).
    Active: Berserker may choose to willingly reveal his/her identity to public. In this case, the field becomes "frozen with fear": all votes in the current round are discarded, and Assassin will get a free choice of who to kill.
  • Ruler - Passive: Each round, Ruler learn role (not team) from top voted player.
    Active: This player has the option to PM GM with the name of a player. That player's allegiance is then revealed to everyone. 2 rounds cooldown.
  • Shielder - Passive: If Shielder successfully saved someone, he learn his role (not team).
    Active: Once a round, Shielder can choose a player. If that player was targeted by Assassin, that player will not die. This occurs even if that player was targeted by Shielder's own Assassin. Shielder may not defend him/herself. Shielder can use his ability only once/player. Announced if successful.
    Extra comment: (Shielded player learn he was shielded even if it's missed)
  • Avenger - Passive: At start of the game, Avenger can choose a player, if this player is killed, Avenger will automatically kill a second player. Avenger can choose his second player at start of the game too, however... (Kill Announced)
    Active: Each round, Avenger can change his second player selection. Not announced
    Extra comment: (First player learn he'll be avenged if he die)
  • Saver - Passive: When Saver successfully revive someone, his identity is revealed. Also, player revived have his memories back and learn his assassin full identity. Cooldown is refreshed, but once/game ability already used aren't refund.
    Active: Once in a game, Saver may revive a player of his/her choice. Reviving is complicated spell and need a full day to be casted. The revive will be announced during night recap when cast start and may be interrupted by Saver death, or if she's sealed.
  • Faker - Passive: This player have a fake identity from opposing team unused classes. This player identity will ALWAYS be revealed as his dummy role, even after death. Guaranteed at least one/game.
    Active: Once a game, Faker can display a fake information in night recap. Announced.
    SpoilerShow
    Comment: Player are self-aware about being dead or alive, no matter which fake info is given.
  • Watcher - Passive: Can see vote results (not all, like assassins).
    Active: Once a game, Watcher can see if top 2 in vote results are "Safe to kill" or not. (Not safe means player is protected by a shield, a lancer ability is activated, this player will be avenge or this player is Berserker or many of those possibilities at same time.) Announced.
    Extra Comment: Watcher needs to activate his ability before seeing vote results however.
  • Assassin (Bonus class) - EACH round, GM will randomize who will get the role. Each team is guaranteed an Assassin.
    Passive: Can kill someone from top 2 votes.
    Active: Can dig a hole and bury corpse. This way, he's only one to know his victim role/team, other players still know name of the victim. Announced.
Priorities: Rider Active (Dodge) > Archer Active (Seal) > Berserker Active (Vote Cancel) > Avenger (Avenge kill) > Lancer (Active Kill) > Shielder (Shield) > everything else

Notes:
- Saber is vulnerable to Lancer active & Berserker passive and die even if she had 2 lives.
- Faker identity is only reveal when game is finished. You can't be sure about someone's allegiance just because he's dead.
- Digging a hole is also sealed by Archer, since it's an active.
- Archer can interrupt Saver.
- Vote tie is break by first one having a vote.
- This game don't include mercy !
ImageImage
Secret Santax Time
much more stuff than ToadyShow
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage
Hikarin is the best
User avatar
Reverend
~Planetarian~
~Planetarian~
Posts: 4159
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:26 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Sofia Jalapeno Viviage
Melon Pan: 4
Wish: To die... ASAP.

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Reverend » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:18 pm

ah, Caster really needs a rework. Feels too... background work.
Giving his love for life, and died dreaming about her in the end. A real happy man, right? ~
User avatar
ezethan97
Season faery
Season faery
Posts: 95
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:57 pm
Worships: Megumin
Melon Pan: 50
2017 Female Favorite: Megumin

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by ezethan97 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:40 am

Reverend wrote:ah, Caster really needs a rework. Feels too... background work.
Troll caster from second game?
Image
User avatar
Momo
State alchemist
State alchemist
Posts: 1958
Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 1:58 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Akemi Homura
Melon Pan: 132
Wish: Yotsuba-chan♥

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Momo » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:11 am

I have nothing meaningful to contribute but I will play. Also Rider's active is actually a passive.

Revenge Time~
Kudos to my amazing Secret Santa ♥
User avatar
Chibasa
[You can (not) Zura]
[You can (not) Zura]
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Yamada Naoko
Melon Pan: 120
2018 Female Favorite: Nishimiya Shōko
2018 Male Favorite: Kyon
2017 Female Favorite: Kasumigaoka Utaha
2017 Male Favorite: Okazaki Tomoya
Wish: Creating the best card game
Location: France

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Chibasa » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:23 am

Momo wrote:I have nothing meaningful to contribute but I will play. Also Rider's active is actually a passive.
Maybe can make it active, letting him choose if he wants to avoid the ability, so he can still get shielded?

Also, I'll work on new caster soon so. And you can register

Players:
Momo
Woody
Revvie
ezethan97
houreki
Toady
tehyc
shadowhunter
Corni
Rupy
Kiwi
Homura
ImageImage
Secret Santax Time
much more stuff than ToadyShow
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage
Hikarin is the best
User avatar
Reverend
~Planetarian~
~Planetarian~
Posts: 4159
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:26 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Sofia Jalapeno Viviage
Melon Pan: 4
Wish: To die... ASAP.

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Reverend » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:03 pm

Disagree on making Rider's Dodge into an active spell. Too OP, imo.
Rather change the first ability. Bcs tbh it's pretty useless. (But I have no idea what, that's why I didn't change it.)

and also there's that feedback about the dead players having more role to play. I did say I agreed on the more health thing.
But... I don't know. Your call.

On for the next game. I rather doubt we will get 10, though.
You should try get the stew family to play.
Giving his love for life, and died dreaming about her in the end. A real happy man, right? ~
User avatar
Chibasa
[You can (not) Zura]
[You can (not) Zura]
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Yamada Naoko
Melon Pan: 120
2018 Female Favorite: Nishimiya Shōko
2018 Male Favorite: Kyon
2017 Female Favorite: Kasumigaoka Utaha
2017 Male Favorite: Okazaki Tomoya
Wish: Creating the best card game
Location: France

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Chibasa » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:09 pm

Reverend wrote:Disagree on making Rider's Dodge into an active spell. Too OP, imo.
Rather change the first ability. Bcs tbh it's pretty useless. (But I have no idea what, that's why I didn't change it.)

and also there's that feedback about the dead players having more role to play. I did say I agreed on the more health thing.
But... I don't know. Your call.

On for the next game. I rather doubt we will get 10, though.
You should try get the stew family to play.
First ability for Rider can be pretty useful to not be top 2 votes early on.

About dead player, the change I made on faker, insert doubt about who they really are, not mentioning new assassin possibility.

10 players? Will depend if we can get new ones or Fuiji/Kiwi/Rail coming back I guess.
ImageImage
Secret Santax Time
much more stuff than ToadyShow
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage
Hikarin is the best
User avatar
Chibasa
[You can (not) Zura]
[You can (not) Zura]
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Yamada Naoko
Melon Pan: 120
2018 Female Favorite: Nishimiya Shōko
2018 Male Favorite: Kyon
2017 Female Favorite: Kasumigaoka Utaha
2017 Male Favorite: Okazaki Tomoya
Wish: Creating the best card game
Location: France

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Chibasa » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:37 pm

Tried something new for caster.
ImageImage
Secret Santax Time
much more stuff than ToadyShow
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage
Hikarin is the best
User avatar
Rupy
~Grand Magus~
~Grand Magus~
Posts: 433
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:48 pm
Badges:
Worships: Holo
Melon Pan: 238
2017 Female Favorite: Shiina Mashiro
2017 Male Favorite: Yukihira Sōma
Location: Argentina

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Rupy » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:12 pm

Can I join?
coming soon
User avatar
Chibasa
[You can (not) Zura]
[You can (not) Zura]
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Yamada Naoko
Melon Pan: 120
2018 Female Favorite: Nishimiya Shōko
2018 Male Favorite: Kyon
2017 Female Favorite: Kasumigaoka Utaha
2017 Male Favorite: Okazaki Tomoya
Wish: Creating the best card game
Location: France

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Chibasa » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:18 pm

Sure, I added you.
ImageImage
Secret Santax Time
much more stuff than ToadyShow
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage
Hikarin is the best
User avatar
tehyc
[Death by Embracing]
[Death by Embracing]
Posts: 2523
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:10 pm
Badges:
ImageImageImageImageImage
Melon Pan: 36
2017 Female Favorite: Kuroyukihime
2017 Male Favorite: Sakamaki Izayoi
Wish: Stay alive

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by tehyc » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:22 pm

(A wild tehyc appear randomly and stare)
ImageImage
User avatar
ezethan97
Season faery
Season faery
Posts: 95
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:57 pm
Worships: Megumin
Melon Pan: 50
2017 Female Favorite: Megumin

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by ezethan97 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:25 pm

I'll play again.
Image
User avatar
Reverend
~Planetarian~
~Planetarian~
Posts: 4159
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:26 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Sofia Jalapeno Viviage
Melon Pan: 4
Wish: To die... ASAP.

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Reverend » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:46 pm

tehyc wrote:(A wild tehyc appear randomly and stare)
*throws Masterball*
Giving his love for life, and died dreaming about her in the end. A real happy man, right? ~
User avatar
Chibasa
[You can (not) Zura]
[You can (not) Zura]
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Yamada Naoko
Melon Pan: 120
2018 Female Favorite: Nishimiya Shōko
2018 Male Favorite: Kyon
2017 Female Favorite: Kasumigaoka Utaha
2017 Male Favorite: Okazaki Tomoya
Wish: Creating the best card game
Location: France

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Chibasa » Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:55 pm

We're 12 ! Game should start in 5 hours from this post (in case I have late positive answers fro more players). I'll send you your roles at this moment and make a brief description of important changes game had, just in case someone missed a change.
ImageImage
Secret Santax Time
much more stuff than ToadyShow
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage
Hikarin is the best
User avatar
Chibasa
[You can (not) Zura]
[You can (not) Zura]
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Yamada Naoko
Melon Pan: 120
2018 Female Favorite: Nishimiya Shōko
2018 Male Favorite: Kyon
2017 Female Favorite: Kasumigaoka Utaha
2017 Male Favorite: Okazaki Tomoya
Wish: Creating the best card game
Location: France

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Chibasa » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:42 pm

Game is starting a bit sooner than expected ! (I'll give extra time for votes if needed)

Please notes some important things:

Priorities: Rider Active (Dodge) > Archer Active (Seal) > Berserker Active (Vote Cancel) > Avenger (Avenge kill) > Lancer (Active Kill) > Shielder (Shield) > everything else

Notes:
- Saber is vulnerable to Lancer active & Berserker passive and die even if she had 2 lives.
- Faker identity is only reveal when game is finished. You can't be sure about someone's allegiance just because he's dead.
- Digging a hole is also sealed by Archer, since it's an active.
- Archer can interrupt Saver.
- This game don't include mercy !
- If something happen to you, you will know it by PM.

Faker active will works like this:
1- You PM me an information you want to put in night recap
2- I include with my own writing style to make it believable, however I will not include logic consequences in recap

Example: Faker tell me: I want to use my power, please say "Black assassin used assassination"
I would include: "Assassin of Black uses Assassinate" but I will not fake someone's death randomly, so, if nobody die, your fake will be easily discovered. So, you must use active carefully.
ImageImage
Secret Santax Time
much more stuff than ToadyShow
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage
Hikarin is the best
User avatar
Chibasa
[You can (not) Zura]
[You can (not) Zura]
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Yamada Naoko
Melon Pan: 120
2018 Female Favorite: Nishimiya Shōko
2018 Male Favorite: Kyon
2017 Female Favorite: Kasumigaoka Utaha
2017 Male Favorite: Okazaki Tomoya
Wish: Creating the best card game
Location: France

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Chibasa » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:22 pm

Since the "5 hours" I've announced before starting game are passed, I'll send you vote reminder and you can count 24h from this message for round end.

New notes:
- Assassin active is usable every round.
- Precision on Assassin Active: Can dig a hole and bury corpse. This way, he's only one to know his victim role/team, other players still know name of the victim. Announced.
ImageImage
Secret Santax Time
much more stuff than ToadyShow
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage
Hikarin is the best
User avatar
ezethan97
Season faery
Season faery
Posts: 95
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:57 pm
Worships: Megumin
Melon Pan: 50
2017 Female Favorite: Megumin

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by ezethan97 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:32 pm

Just thought I'd point out to everyone that there are 12 people playing and 12 classes not including assassin. This probably isn't helpful since we don't know whether some classes are repeated or not, but I thought it was interesting to point out.
Image
User avatar
Toady
[School Idol Producer]
[School Idol Producer]
Posts: 1832
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:53 pm
Badges:
Image
Worships: Tsuruya-san
Melon Pan: 50
2017 Female Favorite: Nakano Azusa
2017 Male Favorite: Yang Wenli
Wish: A wedding for Nico & Maki
Location: Switzerland

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Toady » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:54 am

Finally had time to read the new rules.
I wonder how many fake Fakers will appear now xD
Image
Much stuff (but Chibaka has more)Show
Image
#Drunkard4Ever #ThanksKiwi
Image
Image
My Secret Santa is awesome :3

Image
Hikarin <3
Image
Thank you Secret Santa 2016 :3
User avatar
Chibasa
[You can (not) Zura]
[You can (not) Zura]
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Yamada Naoko
Melon Pan: 120
2018 Female Favorite: Nishimiya Shōko
2018 Male Favorite: Kyon
2017 Female Favorite: Kasumigaoka Utaha
2017 Male Favorite: Okazaki Tomoya
Wish: Creating the best card game
Location: France

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Chibasa » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:06 am

Pre-recapShow
It's the end of the afternoon, you're desperately hoping you'll survive another day, when you see a lot of people grouping around the Grand Place. Some smoke is rising in the air and you can feel the heat from here, a huge fire is in the center of the crowd. Suddenly, someone climbs up on a stage that you didn't even notice before.

"Hear me out my friends. Democracy have shown his limits already ! We're in a war, we don't have time to offer populace to choose who to kill or something.
Assassins deserves full power and to lead us to victory ! Weak people don't have a word to say. Me, Reverend, Berserker of Black, solemnly declare that I burnt all your votes. This night will be red. This night will be cover by red's blood !"
Assassins can freely choose their target, or to abstain.

Image
ImageImage
Secret Santax Time
much more stuff than ToadyShow
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage
Hikarin is the best
User avatar
Reverend
~Planetarian~
~Planetarian~
Posts: 4159
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:26 pm
Badges:
ImageImage
Worships: Sofia Jalapeno Viviage
Melon Pan: 4
Wish: To die... ASAP.

Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Reverend » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:13 am

oh I thought you're going to reveal me next round.

well, not that it matters. no one will kill me unless they want to die with me, anyway
Giving his love for life, and died dreaming about her in the end. A real happy man, right? ~
Post Reply