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Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Corni » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:24 pm

I am liberal this time... Time to kill woody...
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Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Toady » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:44 pm

Corni wrote:I am liberal this time... Time to kill woody...
I invented a new class, totally unbiased towards Woody.

Villager - Passive: If you're Woody, you die at the end of Round 1 from an unknown disease.
Active: Once per turn, you can invite someone to stay at your place. If it's Woody you can kill him.

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Post by Momo » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:59 am

rip me. Woody will kill me twice again ;-;

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Post by tehyc » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:32 am

I have a feeling that in this very first round, we will have more death than usual
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Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Chibasa » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:34 am

Night Recap 1Show
Ruler of Black revealed Toady. Toady is Ruler of Red.
Assassin of Black used assassination.
Assassin of Red used assassination.
Avenger of Red avenged WoodyMC. He lost his mind and killed someone.
In his last breath, Berserker of Black killed back his assaillant.

Reverend is now gone. He was Berserker of Black.
Shadowhunter is now gone. But nobody found his corpse to identify his role and allegiance.
tehyc is now gone. He was Avenger of Red.
WoodyMC is now gone. He was Caster of Red.
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Post by tehyc » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:52 am

Reverend wrote:no one will kill me unless they want to die with me, anyway
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Post by WoodyMC » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:03 am

Oh that was bloodier than i thoughht.

To my dearest red allies, I am the Caster of Red. I might have been killed by the opposing assassin, but my soul and my memories remain here in this vessel. Even though my ability is no longer with me, I promise to use the last of my memories to support you. So please, believe in me and make contact.

Specially addressed to Faker of Red: I have a special mission for you. Try to contact me asap when you see this message. The sooner you contact, the easier for me to decide the action.
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Post by shadowhunter » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:13 am

Ouch, eliminated after round 1 again NeverLucky.
Whoever done this, they are being very clever decision to hide identity of the speaking player, who just can't shut up.
Theory of what happened:
Assassin X killed Woody and for their luck he even couldn't use his ability.
Tehyc chose Woody and Reverend and that worked too. It's very suspicious, isn't?
Assassin Y chose me because my presence is like sabotage for all players. And as me being adept of Team Kill, that could be even Black Assassin. At that moment, I realised I could be safe if dodge was working against Assassin, but that would be OP kek.

Anyway, good luck to Black team....
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Post by Reverend » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:09 am

tehyc wrote:
Reverend wrote:no one will kill me unless they want to die with me, anyway
Hai
oh I actually expected Archer to seal me and then I got killed bcs of that.
baka chi-ahou so baka.
shadowhunter wrote:Ouch, eliminated after round 1 again NeverLucky.
Whoever done this, they are being very clever decision to hide identity of the speaking player, who just can't shut up.
Theory of what happened:
Assassin X killed Woody and for their luck he even couldn't use his ability.
Tehyc chose Woody and Reverend and that worked too. It's very suspicious, isn't?
Assassin Y chose me because my presence is like sabotage for all players. And as me being adept of Team Kill, that could be even Black Assassin. At that moment, I realised I could be safe if dodge was working against Assassin, but that would be OP kek.

Anyway, good luck to Black team....
If you're black, reveal your role.
I'm going to count you as not an ally if not.
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Post by Chibasa » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:58 am

Precision about berserker: His passive is a once/game ability.
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Post by shadowhunter » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:04 am

Reverend wrote: If you're black, reveal your role.
I'm going to count you as not an ally if not.
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Re: 4th Holy Grail War (Preparation+Feedback needed+Inscript

Post by Toady » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:28 am

Welcome to 'You thought it was a real message, but it was me, Faker!' :onion40:
What if one of the messages is actually a fake message by Faker! Note that there could be multiple messages by different Faker.

Ruler of Black revealed Toady. Toady is Ruler of Red.
Way too specific and useless to fake. Also I'm really Ruler of Red (or might I be Black Faker? :3), so not likely.
Assassin of Black used assassination.
Highly likely as there are 4 deaths.
Assassin of Red used assassination.
Highly likely as there are 4 deaths.
Avenger of Red avenged WoodyMC. He lost his mind and killed someone.
Woody is indeed dead.
In his last breath, Berserker of Black killed back his assaillant.
Revvie is indeed dead. The killer (tehyc?) wanted to be sure to target a Black I suppose.

Reverend is now gone. He was Berserker of Black.
Proved from above.
Shadowhunter is now gone. But nobody found his corpse to identify his role and allegiance.
Could be a Faker trap. If the two assassins targeted the same member, only three persons would be dead. So there is a small possibility that Shadow is actually still alive. Of course, this would be a dangerous trap as Faker has no way of knowing if the two Assassins chose the same target or not.
tehyc is now gone. He was Avenger of Red.
Proved from above.
WoodyMC is now gone. He was Caster of Red.
Proved from above.
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Post by Toady » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:14 pm

Just wanted to point out that tehyc is the only one confirmed Red player, as he used his ability. Woody (or I) could be Faker, so it's safer to rely on tehyc to take team decisions. Don't hesitate to contact him and to share your role with him.
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Post by tehyc » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:33 pm

Toady wrote:Just wanted to point out that tehyc is the only one confirmed Red player, as he used his ability. Woody (or I) could be Faker, so it's safer to rely on tehyc to take team decisions. Don't hesitate to contact him and to share your role with him.
Come on Red, I'm definitely not Faker, Imma a Red. D=
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Post by Chibasa » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:34 pm

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Post by Chibasa » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:22 am

Assassination phase starts.
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Post by Chibasa » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:37 pm

Assassination phase is completed. I'll get my laptop in 60~90min for night recap.
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Post by Chibasa » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:03 pm

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Ruler of Red revealed Homura. Homura is Lancer of Black.
Faker of Black added a fake info to this recap.
Assassin of Black used assassination.
Assassin of Red used assassination.

Corni is now gone, he was Archer of Red.
Toady is now gone, his corpse can't be found.
Kiwigiwi is now gone, she was Watcher of Black.
Round 3 vote start in 10 minutes. Edit: Corrected wrong text color, but text itself was good.
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Post by Chibasa » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:53 pm

Night Recap (FINAL)Show
Reverend broke a nail, can't stand it and commit suicide.
ezethan walks on a landmine and triggers an EXPLOOOOOSION !
Momo is kidnapped by Kholdy and locked in the dungeon.
houreki muere de una infección despues come muchas tortillas de maíz.
Homura die same way eating along with him.
Corni forgot to eat, too busy watching blonde loli on TV and die.
Tehyc come back from the dead and win the game along with Rupy even if they are not in the same team, cause I decided to offer newcomers the win.
Congratulations !
More seriously, I'm shared between disappointment and frustration. Frustration because I forget writing a line about screenshots in the rules (and also an edit about ruler revealing identity didn't updated sadly) and disappointment, because players who started screenshot strategy this time read my opinion about it multiple times and could totally asked if it was allowed or not (especially when they ask me about lot of things during the game, like if PM are allowed. I'm considering fact you didn't ask me this question on purpose cause you knew the answer very possible. And I don't really appreciate it. I forced myself continuing game during round 2 but I don't see many interest by doing so. You even asked multiple screenshots to some players (was it to see their speed to answer trying to guess if they had time photoshop or not to be sure about their team?) In any case players complained about it.

In every game close to this one, nobody screenshot his role to prove his allegiance (werewolf, secret hitler, ect) it's not the way game is supposed to be played. Trying on first game seems an acceptable mistake to me, if it was a new player starting it I'd be more cool about it. But that's not the case.

Using meta-elements of the game (Gamemaster PM) is cheat to me. It's using informations that game didn't planned players can use (you can compare this to streamhacking, knowing a player position on the map in online game by watching his stream isn't forbidden in any video game rules, it still have hack in the name.
There are tacit rules, some may not agree about my fact statement opinion, but since you (<= players using it) were knowing my opinion, I'm pretty disappointed.

For ones who wanna more example of what I heard by using meta-elements:
If you're playing poker and spotted a card is damaged in a corner, and now this card is Heart 3, you're not supposed to take advantage of it,
cause it's not fair and not planned by game. If you're honest you can tell a card can be recognized and ask to change deck. Sure nobody would caught you,
but that doesn't mean it's okay cause it's not supposed to be part of the game.

And everyone is smart enough to get that: knowing how to photoshop isn't supposed to be rewarded by the game (cause people who don't have editor, or time to spend editing screenshots are doomed with this technique). And if I recognize it's partly my fault to forget to write about it, I must said: I don't think I'm supposed to write about it in the first place. And Rail wasn't supposed to write it either in first game.

Even if you consider this option only borderline, you had possibility to ask gamemaster if you can do it. And since gamemaster can't ban it while it's already used (since it's creating even more unfair game if only first player using it can use it), I had to accept it when people were asking me, else, they could learn that some other players already used it if I talk more about it. (Spoiler: only players asked for providing em asked me of course, like in first game).

So game end without real winners, I'm sorry for players who didn't asked for this, or didn't want to read a long rant. I can't offer more.
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Whoever wanna make next one can go for it. Don't expect me to play it however.

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Post by Toady » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:39 pm

Thanks for ruining the game :jii:
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