Tsundere - Like, Dislike, Why?

[zergdramon]

Tsundere? Hmm...let me check

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The Special Rozen Maiden Plane just arrived.

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[HeartClover]

A Gift for everyone

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Yes <3

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Rozen Maiden plane is really cool too.

[zergdramon]

This is bad, I'm starting to "like" Victorique now.

[Metaler]

Victorique~ I should rewatch Gosick, if only because she's unbearably adorable.

[ithekro]

But Victorique didn't "say it in red".

[Metaler]

^ Where's Beatrice when you need her?

[Wolfnagi]

Who need Beatrice when you can have Battler xD

(Still thinking that Battler is some kind of tsundere.......)

[Metaler]

Uuuh, Battler's quite far from being tsundere. Beato, on the other hand...

[rainbowniji]

I don't like tsunderes very much because they're usually rude. I find them a bit annoying at times. Why can't they just express some gratitude when someone does something nice for them?

[Wolfnagi]

I don't like tsunderes very much because they're usually rude. I find them a bit annoying at times. Why can't they just express some gratitude when someone does something nice for them?

Cause they awesome that way xD
Not only that, some people are actually masochistic for them xD

[Metaler]

I don't like tsunderes very much because they're usually rude. I find them a bit annoying at times. Why can't they just express some gratitude when someone does something nice for them?

Kagerou says: "You, good sir, are an S!"

But ahem, yes. I assume that people who like rude tsunderes are usually M.

[Jeffrey-sama]

I don't like tsunderes very much because they're usually rude. I find them a bit annoying at times. Why can't they just express some gratitude when someone does something nice for them?

The feeling of satisfaction one gets after being able to "tame the beast" (i.e. getting the "dere" instead of the "tsun") is all worth it in the end, regardless of all the rude, annoying and ungrateful actions that occurred beforehand. (:

[maglor]

1. What we need is a tsundere scale.

Good scoring system would be to give 10 for most extreme case of tsundere imaginable, 0 for someone who always behaves as what you expect from typical person, and -10 for someone who shows no anger even when there is every reason to be angry. With this system, I would say girls like Katsura Hinagiku and Holo would be somewhere between 3 to 6 in tsundere scale, Aisaka Taiga probably was above 7 in first half of Toradora and below 5 for the 2nd half, Shana would progress from something like 8 to 6, and Louise Valliere would be around 9. Ayanami Rei might be close to (-9) , and Kotobuki Tsumugi might be near (-1).

2. Once you have some reference values for some notable characters, where would you place some recent characters like

Shirakiin Ririchirou : Inu x Boku SS
Roromiya Karuta : Inu x Boku SS
Sanka Rea : Sankarea
Kuroyukihime : Accel world
Miniwa Tsumiki : Acchi Kocchi
Kaname Madoka : Puella Magi Madoka ☆ Magica
Ibuki Fūko : CLANNAD
Tomoe Mami : Puella Magi Madoka ☆ Magica
Tainaka Ritsu : K-ON!

? ( Do note that there is negative score available for Anti-Tsundereness )

[Jack_Rav]

^ To that scale, I would like to add:

Hiiragi Kagami: 1 to 2
Makise Kurisu: 1 to 2
Misaka Mikoto: 2 to 4
Haqua du lot Herminium: 2 to 4
Fujibayashi Kyou: 3 to 5
Kousaka Kirino: 8 to 9

Nagato Yuki: -9 (is -10 possible?)
Tomoe Mami: N/A (nowhere near enough time to judge...)
Kaname Madoka: 0 to -2


I haven't watched any of the new shows referred to in your list, so I can't comment.

[Bastion]

1. What we need is a tsundere scale.

Good scoring system would be to give 10 for most extreme case of tsundere imaginable, 0 for someone who always behaves as what you expect from typical person, and -10 for someone who shows no anger even when there is every reason to be angry. With this system, I would say girls like Katsura Hinagiku and Holo would be somewhere between 3 to 6 in tsundere scale, Aisaka Taiga probably was above 7 in first half of Toradora and below 5 for the 2nd half, Shana would progress from something like 8 to 6, and Louise Valliere would be around 9. Ayanami Rei might be close to (-9) , and Kotobuki Tsumugi might be near (-1).

I wouldn't even rank Hinagiku as a 1 currently, since Hayate's the only one who's gotten beaten up by her recently in the manga, and it's entirely his own fault. She's as 'dere' as anyone can actually get otherwise, even to the point of disturbing her friends.

As one of my friends noted on another forum, Hayate's really good at attracting tsunderes, or making them convert from whatever they are (even yandere) to tsun.

I'd say Louise is probably at a 10, for beating anyone up for the smallest infraction.
Sora Takanashi is probably a good measure for a 1, enough there to see it, but not enough to be too unrealistic with it.
Edward Elric could also be a decent candidate for a 10 (especially since he's atypically a male candidate), since he flies into a rage whenever anyone (even himself) triggers it.

[maglor]

^ To that scale, I would like to add:

Hiiragi Kagami: 1 to 2
Makise Kurisu: 1 to 2
Misaka Mikoto: 2 to 4
Haqua du lot Herminium: 2 to 4
Fujibayashi Kyou: 3 to 5
Kousaka Kirino: 8 to 9

Nagato Yuki: -9 (is -10 possible?)
Tomoe Mami: N/A (nowhere near enough time to judge...)
Kaname Madoka: 0 to -2


I haven't watched any of the new shows referred to in your list, so I can't comment.

Interesting score for Kagami .

I wouldn't even rank Hinagiku as a 1 currently, since Hayate's the only one who's gotten beaten up by her recently in the manga, and it's entirely his own fault. She's as 'dere' as anyone can actually get otherwise, even to the point of disturbing her friends.

As one of my friends noted on another forum, Hayate's really good at attracting tsunderes, or making them convert from whatever they are (even yandere) to tsun.

I'd say Louise is probably at a 10, for beating anyone up for the smallest infraction.
Sora Takanashi is probably a good measure for a 1, enough there to see it, but not enough to be too unrealistic with it.
Edward Elric could also be a decent candidate for a 10 (especially since he's atypically a male candidate), since he flies into a rage whenever anyone (even himself) triggers it.

But Edward also had one of the best proposal lines ever. That line almost won an award.

[Jack_Rav]

^ To that scale, I would like to add:

Hiiragi Kagami: 1 to 2

Interesting score for Kagami .

Perhaps in hindsight, 0-1/0-2. Where would you put Kagami on the scale, then?

[maglor]

^ To that scale, I would like to add:

Hiiragi Kagami: 1 to 2

Interesting score for Kagami .

Perhaps in hindsight, 0-1/0-2. Where would you put Kagami on the scale, then?

Around 4 considering how she reacts to Konata and also to her sisters.

[Elvinsky]

I dislike tsundere who:
- Use the most extreme/abusive of ways to show their tsun side. e.g.: A whip, or a megaton punch (anime!version).
- Only show their dere side in the most rarest of occasions, only for them to suddenly go back to their extreme tsun ways--even if the male protagonist reciprocates the tsundere's dere side with some dere of his own.

@Maglor: How would you rate Naru on your Tsundere scale?

[Bastion]

I dislike tsundere who:
- Use the most extreme/abusive of ways to show their tsun side. e.g.: A whip, or a megaton punch (anime!version).
- Only show their dere side in the most rarest of occasions, only for them to suddenly go back to their extreme tsun ways--even if the male protagonist reciprocates the tsundere's dere side with some dere of his own.

@Maglor: How would you rate Naru on your Tsundere scale?

So what level of Tsun is acceptable according to your scale? Anything below a 7 or so?

I don't dislike Tsundere's generally, 'evil' ojou's tend to annoy me more often.