[DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by melange » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:38 am

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Kyoani 61% JCS 39%
Kyoani 47% Deen 53%
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by ithekro » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:48 am

I was going to do more on Topaz today, but my cat of 21 years died today....I'm not exactly in the spirits for story. Probably Tuesday as I start training for a new job tomorrow.

I do hope Yuki wins though...not the necklace...just against Shana. It would make for a nice ending to this chapter.
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by melange » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:08 am

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Kyoani 59% JCS 41%
Kyoani 55% Deen 45%
JCS 55% Deen 45%

ignore the 'aquamarine' bit.. didn't bother going around changing the titles of everything
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by ithekro » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:30 am

Yuki didn't beat Shana..but she got "close"...relatively speaking.
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by GreenCatra » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:49 pm

Wow, I just joined these forums, and I'm already in love with them.

I'm being overloaded with all these pictures and information, so I'll just sit back and hope I can figure out what is going on ^^
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by melange » Sat May 08, 2010 5:09 am

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by melange » Tue May 18, 2010 5:51 pm

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by ithekro » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:32 pm

I must apologies for not continuing on like I planned. I've not been able to focus on the stories like I hoped. Of course that is partly the reason why I was hoping to get more people writting and thus keeping the story flowing on instead of me being several periods behind now (and some matches have some really good stories to tell...I've thought a little about them, but I'd need to either do them all, or make even shorter versions of the campaigns when I can get my head around it).
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by ithekro » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:13 am

So...back at it again.
(We'll see how long I can keep this up this time around)

Hanazawa...11 characters on the 144 currently in the contest. 2 are getting in without question, another 2 are likely to get in as well. None of her characters are JCS or KyoAni based (in fact all 11 are each from a different studio), so we have a seed for some new Alliance type faction to counter them both. I know Melange has a symbol for her group already...the task is to make a name for it...and a purpose. It has been over three years of Kygimiya Knights so far, and after 2009, all of them have been in the JCS, practically running the place if it wasn't for Hinagiku and Misaka. So will Hanazawa's group be a new Sith...or will the Kigumiya have turned to the dark side after so much war and being given so much power (yet denying Shana a tiera, Nagi the win in Saimoe finals...twice...yet Taiga gets two wins in a year...but not in ISML). Or have them be something completely different? A league of assassins? Moe assassins? Protass linked mind (or whatever is was), just instead be a linked voice?

Of them, only Nadeko has ISML experiance, and she did well enough last year to get to the top 16. And she was sort of a ghost faction for the "lost" Shaft Empire. Shaft may or may not be back in numbers, depending on if the Puella Magi get in or not. They aren't doing all that great in the mid-2000s range. Bakemonogatari seems like it will be in for sure, and poor Yuno is struggling again. Nino I can't take seriously since she has the lowest total in her group. So that leaves the possibility of an Alliance type system like the first year setup agianst the KyoAni Empire (lead by the Kugimiya Knights since the JCS was literally just Shana and Louise that year), but this time against probably the JCS and the KyoAni Empires...if the JCS gets its numbers back, because right now the KyoAni looks like they will easily have a good core of 10 girls eventually (3 Haruhi, up to 3-6 K-ON, 3 CLANNAD, and at least 1 from Lucky Star) while the JCS is looking more iffy in places. They got Shana and Taiga no problem, Hinagiku, Maria, and Nagi should follow easily enough with Misaka. Merry might get in as well, but after that there are issues. Thus the Alliance will depend on who is bigger or if their are more than one large power, the lesser powers can group up with the Hanazawa (and probably the lonely Fate) to enact justice or whatever.
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by chaosprophet » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:40 am

From their performance so far Kanade and Kuroneko should be 100% in, Nadeko and Charlotte have a high chance of getting there, and Shiori is a maybe.

Maybe the shows from those 4-5 girls can be unified/together by being followers of a same religion, which would be something related to Hanazawa Kana (with a Lotus as a symbol, and ask melange for why it's a lotus). The Hanakawa Characters would be the high priests of the religion, one for each seeries of the faction. Different from the Kugimiya Order (based on the jedi knights, it's kind some religion but more related with order and balance in the universe), they would be more religious fanatics and trying to expand their religion. The core words and/or the Tiara may have some importance for them, may be where their religion originated, or some holy place for them, or the tiara can be a holy artifact for them.

EDIT: If you see it as some kind of religious faction, than instead of seeing them as different nations united by each, each could also have their function:
IS - The army mor some kind of inquisition
Angel Beats - guides of the afterlife
Oreimo - A more fanatic group inside the faction
Bakemonogatari - Some kind of hidden/secreat part of the faction
Kami nomi - a group to be able to purify those that are taken by sin or something

In that case the actual hanazawa characters can still be high priests, or some kind of apostled or prophets. Also if you consider those 5 series being part of it the number of characters woudl be...
IS 2-5 (houki and charlotte looks like good chance of getting in, as the show progress while prelims are on the other 3 may also be able to get into regular)
Angel beats 3-4 (Tenshi, Yuri and Yui-nyan should likely get in, Iwasawa may also be able to)
Oreimo 2-3 (Kirino and Kuro are given, Ayase may have a good chance)
Bakemonogatari 2 (Senjou and nadeko should get in, but shiobu's chance looks small)
Kami Nomi 1-2 (Elucia should be able to get in, Shiory may not in which case you may not even consider it poart of the faction, but it could work as with the connection)

So that would give them 10-16 girls, most likely around 11, which would be around kyo ani empire numbers as you said.

Well jsut throwing some ideas around :P
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by melange » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:57 am

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This is the logo for the to-be-named Hanazawa Kana faction.

It a 'lotus' is based on two references:-
1. Tachibana Kanade's lotus shaped Hand Sonic ver. 4.
2. Same sort of 'wordplay' that resulted in the Kugimiya Knight's logo being based on a 'key'. Hanazawa 花澤. 花 (hana) = flower, 澤(zawa/sawa) = swamp. What flower grows out of a swamp? A lotus.

cp's religion suggestion is using this reference... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Lotus

I myself like this reference http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Order_of_the_White_Lotus from Avatar as it represents a grouping of people from different nations coming together, like how Hanakana characters are from different series/studios.

I'm not that certain about making their 'loose affiliation' end up coalescing into a 'formalized' faction like the way JCS has become in relation to the Kugimiya Knights. That only really worked cos of the very clear almost one to one Kugimiya Knights/JCS overlap which doesn't exist here. Shoehorning in all the different studios into a faction seems a bit of a stretch, plus meh we already have one 'power' working that way aka JCS, it'll be kind of boring if the same treatment is used here. I tend to view it working as a 'secret'/'dormant' grouping where the ties aren't clearly obvious and their 'agenda' if any is in the background/unknowable to other groups and even to the characters within their own respective series who are not Hana-kana related. This 'secrecy' also relates back to both the historical White Lotus Society reference and the Avatar reference.


order: community, brotherhood, sisterhood, organization, association, society, fellowship, fraternity, confraternity, congregation, sodality, lodge, guild, league, union, club; sect.
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by Wolfnagi » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:07 pm

How bout calling Hanazawa Alliance?
Since their characters are mostly from different studios, it makes perfect sense
Their goal is to bring peace towards the universe, even if it means they have to start a war for it (something like Gundam 00? )
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by melange » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:18 am

Deluge of names

Lotus Alliance
Lotus Affinity
Lotus Affiliation
Lotus Alignment
Lotus Empathy
Lotus Coalition
Lotus Confederacy
Lotus Amalgam
Lotus Solidarity

Fellowship of the Lotus
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by maglor » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:34 am

My choices in order of preference

1. Order of Lotus
2. Fellowship of the Lotus
3. Lotus Coalition
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by Dunois » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:16 pm

fellowship of lotus sounds good
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by Chibi_Orihime » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:30 pm

I like "Fellowship of the Lotus". :3
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by Wolfnagi » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:58 am

But then again,
There are people who doesn't know bout HanaKana translated name.
Lotus image is nice but the title isn't very recognizable....

Fellowship of Hanazawa?
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by Crisu » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:19 pm

It's an opportunity to learn why. The wordplay adds some creativity and mystery to the faction's name. You may not know her name can translate to lotus, but seeing the name of this faction could lead to you ask why -- and then when you find out, it's all the better. "Clever," you might say about it once you find out.

If we shouldn't use Order of the White Lotus, can it be Order of the ___ Lotus using a different color? Would that make any sense?

Otherwise I do like Fellowship of the Lotus, too.
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Space Opera Talk

Post by Wolfnagi » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:03 pm

Oh well,
Seems like LOTR-verse just came into spce xD
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