Shinka-chan! Unlock Your Heart! (CD 1308)

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Shinka-chan! Unlock Your Heart! (CD 1308)

Post by ISML Seitokai » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:54 am

We will force Crisu to change the necklace formula to a better one that is more reflective of period performance. Some of us are sick at the staff doing lazy math with random numbers. Also, fire maglor! Long Live Queen Hikarin!

Council Directive 1308

Introduced by: Nibutani Shinka
Proposal: The necklace formula will be changed to: SDO + 220 * Vote%
Consent: Nibutani Shinka, Takanashi Touka
Dissent: none
Abstain: Kuroyukihime, Takanashi Rikka, Dekomori Sanae

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Shinka: We now move on to this paper from office of numerical research. It seems that the current formula for the ISML necklace was not optimal, as it did not give balanced weight to both factors present. According to their words, in most occasions, one of the factors simply didn't matter. Therefore it is suggested that a change to (SDO + c * Vote%) would restore balance, where 215 < c < 224. The factor should be... :onion50:

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Re: Shinka-chan! Unlock Your Heart! (CD 1308)

Post by maglor » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:27 am

By the way, part of tomato got on Takanashi Touka, so she promptly used the ladle on Shinka and Dekomori. Someone post the picture of Shinka and Dekomori both having bumps on their head.
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Post by blaZofgold » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:29 am

So...did it actually change? Cool.

And I wonder who wrote this.
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Post by LOveLive! » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:41 am

More difficult to overcome SDO disadvantage than before? :roll:
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Re: Shinka-chan! Unlock Your Heart! (CD 1308)

Post by maglor » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:51 am

LOveLive! wrote:More difficult to overcome SDO disadvantage than before? :roll:
Please check the entire 17 necklace period record. You will see that necklace group match result is the most dominant factor in determining the OVERALL necklace finish rank. I urge you to check the Speareman's Correlation value between necklace finish, necklace group match result, and SDO. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearman%2 ... oefficient" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) I tried many statistical testing, and with the data at hand, there was greater chance that SDO was NOT enough to overcome necklace group match result compared to necklace group match result not being enough to overcome SDO disadvantage. Please also consider that the reason why SDO seems to play a bigger role, even though statistical testing clearly says it does not, is merely because you get to see SDO first. Also, I checked the correlation between SDO and necklace group match result and they turned out to be lower than correlation between final necklace finish rank and necklace group match result. There exist too many cases where those with very low SDO ended up with very high necklace group match result to suggest that SDO is determining factor for the necklace group match.

Check the discussions at viewtopic.php?f=30&t=4506&start=20#p245792" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also check the following graphs for relationship between SDO and necklace group round result. The R^2 value is below 0.3, which means rather weak correlation. The correlation between necklace group round results and eventual necklace finish rank is much higher.

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In order to save you the trouble of doing the calculations yourself, here is the Spearman's rank correlation coefficient for the 2012-2013 formula

Between SDO rank and Necklace Finish rank : 0.663509409
Between Necklace Group round result rank and Necklace Finish rank : 0.808823529
Between SDO rank and Necklace Group Round Result Rank : 0.346499358


The reason why we need to discuss the rank, and not who ended up being 1st : The simple reason is, there just isn't sufficient number of cases for this to give meaningful result. We will be using only 17 datapoint for this calculation. By including what happens at 2nd to 7th, we are increasing number of relevant datapoint by 7 fold, thus 119 datapoint. With 100+ datapoint, you can have some confidence in your analysis. With only 17, the uncertainty is too great, and what seems to be a pattern usually turns out to be mere coincidences.
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Re: Shinka-chan! Unlock Your Heart! (CD 1308)

Post by Shmion84 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:24 am

I didn't realize that this rule was already changed two days ago.
Article XVIII.E wrote:[16 April 2014] The Necklace Score calculation was updated for the 2014 Regular Season.
Article XII.G wrote:At the end of the round, each Contestant receives a Necklace Score, calculated as the sum of her SDO for the entire Period and her voting percentage for the round multiplied by 220. (SDO + 220*Vote%)
Let's hope for even more interesting Necklace Matches.
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Re: Shinka-chan! Unlock Your Heart! (CD 1308)

Post by 10ZHAbin » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:41 am

Such a serious matter feels more appropriate to be handed out by Kuroyukihime, is she still asleep?
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Post by Chocola » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:48 am

10ZHAbin wrote:Such a serious matter feels more appropriate to be handed out by Kuroyukihime, is she still asleep?
Unfortunately the only serious one in this ragtag Seitokai is Shinka. You can definitely blame maglor for this.
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Post by kanohistorm » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:57 am

maglor wrote:By the way, part of tomato got on Takanashi Touka, so she promptly used the ladle on Shinka and Dekomori. Someone post the picture of Shinka and Dekomori both having bumps on their head.
No...but I always have a rolled up newspaper as substitute
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Post by blaZofgold » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:21 am

^ What anime is that from?
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blaZofgold wrote:^ What anime is that from?
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shiraoky wrote:
blaZofgold wrote:^ What anime is that from?
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Post by JLoable91 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:08 am

kanohistorm wrote:
shiraoky wrote:
blaZofgold wrote:^ What anime is that from?
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Post by Fuijiwara » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:33 am

why?
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Post by Chocola » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:47 pm

Fuijiwara wrote:why?
I haven't watched it, but I'm going to try a few guesses:

1) it sucks
2) annoying clingy imouto
3) generic romance harem with bad plot
4) absolutely no development from any girl
5) just a big boob fest

or all of the above?
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Post by JLoable91 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:54 pm

KholdStare88 wrote:
Fuijiwara wrote:why?
I haven't watched it, but I'm going to try a few guesses:

1) it sucks
2) annoying clingy imouto
3) generic romance harem with bad plot
4) absolutely no development from any girl
5) just a big boob fest

or all of the above?
Yeah, all of the above
+ 2) 5 annoying clingy 'imoutos'
6) dat dumb male protagonist
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Post by kanohistorm » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:18 pm

JLoable91 wrote:
KholdStare88 wrote:
Fuijiwara wrote:why?
I haven't watched it, but I'm going to try a few guesses:

1) it sucks
2) annoying clingy imouto
3) generic romance harem with bad plot
4) absolutely no development from any girl
5) just a big boob fest

or all of the above?
Yeah, all of the above
+ 2) 5 annoying clingy 'imoutos'
6) dat dumb male protagonist
Yeah, pretty much.
I personally liked some of the characters (rinka-tan <3), but it's one of those shows where I just don't recommended watching.
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Post by kukimunstir » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:53 am

Fireeeee Himeee

Not really sure about the system and stuff but yea hopefully we get to see interesting results
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Re: Shinka-chan! Unlock Your Heart! (CD 1308)

Post by Fuijiwara » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:46 am

kanohistorm wrote:
JLoable91 wrote:
KholdStare88 wrote:
Fuijiwara wrote:why?
I haven't watched it, but I'm going to try a few guesses:

1) it sucks
2) annoying clingy imouto
3) generic romance harem with bad plot
4) absolutely no development from any girl
5) just a big boob fest

or all of the above?
Yeah, all of the above
+ 2) 5 annoying clingy 'imoutos'
6) dat dumb male protagonist
Yeah, pretty much.
I personally liked some of the characters (rinka-tan <3), but it's one of those shows where I just don't recommended watching.

Bascially generic harem anime?
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Re: Shinka-chan! Unlock Your Heart! (CD 1308)

Post by superunature » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:02 am

kanohistorm wrote:
JLoable91 wrote:
KholdStare88 wrote:
Fuijiwara wrote:why?
I haven't watched it, but I'm going to try a few guesses:

1) it sucks
2) annoying clingy imouto
3) generic romance harem with bad plot
4) absolutely no development from any girl
5) just a big boob fest

or all of the above?
Yeah, all of the above
+ 2) 5 annoying clingy 'imoutos'
6) dat dumb male protagonist
Yeah, pretty much.
I personally liked some of the characters (rinka-tan <3), but it's one of those shows where I just don't recommended watching.


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