2020 Couple Tournament

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Do you want couple tourney without any restriction considering characters still in the tournament ?

Poll ended at Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:32 amPlease note that results are sorted by decreasing number of votes received.

No Restriction
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Ban characters still alive in ISML Main Tournament
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47%
 
Total votes: 15
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2020 Couple Tournament

Post by Chibasa » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:34 am

A quick poll to see the possibilities for Couple tourney this year.
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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by maglor » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:42 am

I like to lay out the main case for and against the restriction

Main Case for lifting the restriction : This will allow much greater diversity in couples nominated, which would ensure most of the matches to be well balanced instead being very lopsided in favor of characters from very few series

Main Case against lifting the restriction : Some popular series will have characters in main tournament while also in the couples tournament. We will likely have multiple characters that will appear in two arenas in the same voting day during Couples Tournament.
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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by Master.A.Fang » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:41 am

However, lifting the restriction may lead to a posibility that most of the players try to nominate the couples related to the characters who are in main tournament. So there will be less diversity instead in this case.
And the purpose of an exhibition, I learnt, is to popularize more characters and animations, while characters in main tournament have enough exposure already...
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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by IGNITE » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:30 am

Depending on the purpose for this tournament. If it is to find the best couple in the anime then obviously do it without restriction. If it is to exhibit and increase exposure of Japanese animation and pop culture, then there are better options than a restricted couple tournament.
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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by leomessigoat » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:37 am

maglor wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:42 am
I like to lay out the main case for and against the restriction

Main Case for lifting the restriction : This will allow much greater diversity in couples nominated, which would ensure most of the matches to be well balanced instead being very lopsided in favor of characters from very few series

Main Case against lifting the restriction : Some popular series will have characters in main tournament while also in the couples tournament. We will likely have multiple characters that will appear in two arenas in the same voting day during Couples Tournament.
I believe that the couple tournament can become an official competition.The ornamental will not be lower than any other matches.
I agree with the reasons for lifting the restriction.Another reason I want to mention that Oreki Hotaro&Chitanda Eru and other couples both get the champions can't find any opponents.It is meaningless to fight for the secong place.If you ban them,the ornamental will be lower.
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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by Ennadai » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:40 pm

Exhibition Matches are official ISML-hosted events designed to raise awareness of anime series that are not represented and Japanese media characters who are not participating in the Main Tournament.
I prefer banning all of the characters advancing into the main tournament (at least those participating in the group stages shall be ineligible).
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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by Momento10 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:54 pm

Ennadai wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:40 pm
Exhibition Matches are official ISML-hosted events designed to raise awareness of anime series that are not represented and Japanese media characters who are not participating in the Main Tournament.
I prefer banning all of the characters advancing into the main tournament (at least those participating in the group stages shall be ineligible).
I'll take this one step further; I would also ban characters from ToC as well if you want to raise even more awareness from under-represented series.
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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by BT Salt » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:06 pm

i voted "no restrictions" so we can keep things simple for both the staff and voters.
if the restrictions were set this year, there would be a lot of great ships we'll miss out on.
Also, out of 2019's semi finalists, only Oreki x Chitanda will be allowed, and the pair will most likely win this year's shipping contest judging from their TOC performance and a lack of significant competition


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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by Ennadai » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:55 pm

Main Case for adding more restrictions: This will allow much greater diversity in couples nominated, which would ensure most of the matches to be well balanced instead being very lopsided in favor of characters from very few series. @maglor
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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by maglor » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:28 pm

Ennadai wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:55 pm
Main Case for adding more restrictions: This will allow much greater diversity in couples nominated, which would ensure most of the matches to be well balanced instead being very lopsided in favor of characters from very few series. @maglor
The question of whether restrictions can actually foster greater diversity is a complicated issue. The answer will depend on the situation and the restriction itself. We currently do not have sufficient number of Couples Tournaments to give a definitive answer to this. While I listed the most frequently mentioned case put forward by those who would like the restriction to be lifted, I will not say I agree or disagree with the statement because I don't think there is sufficient data to give a valid answer.
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Re: 2020 Couple Tournament

Post by HasbeenaHibiki » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:55 pm

I voted on against on lifting restriction, also probably restrict characters who won ISML as well. Since it might be better for diversity and it might have less occurrence when it comes to one-sided results. Also there may be less obvious results happening.
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