Best Moe Tournament 2011

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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by Momo » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:10 am

imbehindyou wrote:
Momokutenshi wrote::rage: at Sora > Madoka, but at least they realize now that it was screwed.

Registering, ok, whatever, it takes like, a one-off 5 minutes.
My question is, if they're taking measures to make it more difficult to screw over with votes, are they going to let Fairy Tail characters, who were disqualified for the same reason (vote fraudulence), back in?
I doubt it.

Current situation = cheat votes
Fairy Tail = technically votes themselves were not cheated, but they "violated" KBM's policies re: mass-voting / block-voting several times despite multiple warnings given.
I thought mass-voting = cheat votes? From the explanatory post on site, I was under the impression that the reasoning behind disqualifying FT was because a group of people were at some internet cafe using the computers to multi-vote for them.
Or were they kicked out because someone got a bunch of friends/acquaintances/people together to vote? Cuz if that's seriously the reason, then WTF...

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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by imbehindyou » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:30 am

Momokutenshi wrote:I thought mass-voting = cheat votes? From the explanatory post on site, I was under the impression that the reasoning behind disqualifying FT was because a group of people were at some internet cafe using the computers to multi-vote for them.
Or were they kicked out because someone got a bunch of friends/acquaintances/people together to vote? Cuz if that's seriously the reason, then WTF...
I used "cheat votes" as in multi-voting, bypassing timerthing illegally to vote, etc.
OTOH what I was referring to by using "mass-voting" was how FT community did the following things:
* KBM discourages separate single-anime communities to send out mass-PMs or put up sticky threads to
1. Put sticky thread up and told community members to vote only for FT characters and abstain in other matches -- which KBM also strongly discourages, therefore gave them a warning. This has continually been an issue in recent KBM and many people expressed their discomfort from community people's lack of interest in communicating with other voters via KBM forum.
2. Despite the warning FT community did not stop. Admin considered disqualifying FT characters.
3. After the announce of consideration of disqualifying FT characters, FT community leader "agreed" to stop doing #1
4. But not. FT community set the topic of their chatroom as the content from #1.
5. Warning
6. Sent out mass-PM encouraging them to vote for FT characters
7. Warning
8. Used "recommend" feature and put up a thread (placement position the same as "sticky" threads) with similar content (...again) and also encouraged FT community members to deliberately choose their voter-id setting as "male" "foreigner" "over-20" so that they would be "less" identified
9. kthxbai

Yeah. I don't really agree with their policy on this one but I was whatever with their decision. FT community leader was a douchebag with this whole thing.


Actually I should clarify:
KBM notified the FT community members that as long as no "sticky" threads/mass-PM/chatroom-topic were used in advertising for FT characters, it was fine. FT community did not even agree to those conditions and kept trying to find alternative ways. Several warnings were given re: sticky threads but FT community never really abode by these rules.
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by xcrossfacekillahx » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:01 pm

imbehindyou wrote:
Momokutenshi wrote:I thought mass-voting = cheat votes? From the explanatory post on site, I was under the impression that the reasoning behind disqualifying FT was because a group of people were at some internet cafe using the computers to multi-vote for them.
Or were they kicked out because someone got a bunch of friends/acquaintances/people together to vote? Cuz if that's seriously the reason, then WTF...
I used "cheat votes" as in multi-voting, bypassing timerthing illegally to vote, etc.
OTOH what I was referring to by using "mass-voting" was how FT community did the following things:
* KBM discourages separate single-anime communities to send out mass-PMs or put up sticky threads to
1. Put sticky thread up and told community members to vote only for FT characters and abstain in other matches -- which KBM also strongly discourages, therefore gave them a warning. This has continually been an issue in recent KBM and many people expressed their discomfort from community people's lack of interest in communicating with other voters via KBM forum.
2. Despite the warning FT community did not stop. Admin considered disqualifying FT characters.
3. After the announce of consideration of disqualifying FT characters, FT community leader "agreed" to stop doing #1
4. But not. FT community set the topic of their chatroom as the content from #1.
5. Warning
6. Sent out mass-PM encouraging them to vote for FT characters
7. Warning
8. Used "recommend" feature and put up a thread (placement position the same as "sticky" threads) with similar content (...again) and also encouraged FT community members to deliberately choose their voter-id setting as "male" "foreigner" "over-20" so that they would be "less" identified
9. kthxbai

Yeah. I don't really agree with their policy on this one but I was whatever with their decision. FT community leader was a douchebag with this whole thing.


Actually I should clarify:
KBM notified the FT community members that as long as no "sticky" threads/mass-PM/chatroom-topic were used in advertising for FT characters, it was fine. FT community did not even agree to those conditions and kept trying to find alternative ways. Several warnings were given re: sticky threads but FT community never really abode by these rules.
I agree that the leader is indeed a douche but the characters themselves are innocent. If the community leader did that to let's say your favorite series, the characters from that series would be banned, you'd scream "Oh come on now what happened? They're innocent blah blah blah." and you'd rage to the max.
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by Hachiko » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:28 pm

I have an account on Anizone anyway, so it's back to me voting over there. I think Homura said, "Enough's enough. Time Stop." And a rewind to the First Round Proper was given.
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by Momento10 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:34 pm

These evil votes have gone too far. I will save her one more time; return to when it all began.

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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by DarknessHid » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:28 am

^@ above~ That's an awesome pic :)

Hm, I don't know whether I want to have to make an account to vote on KBM
Maybe i'll just watch the results...
but i really wanted to see the Hideyoshi VS Kanade result D:
...and also, what measures are going to be taken so that when they redo up to Round 96, all these "cheat-votes" don't happen a second time?
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by maglor » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:53 am

DarknessHid wrote:^@ above~ That's an awesome pic :)

Hm, I don't know whether I want to have to make an account to vote on KBM
Maybe i'll just watch the results...
but i really wanted to see the Hideyoshi VS Kanade result D:
...and also, what measures are going to be taken so that when they redo up to Round 96, all these "cheat-votes" don't happen a second time?
Since, with registration, there will be more data available for each votes, it now is technically feasible to detect what the staff suspected as being done by the mysterious voter(s). If they appear again, and if their votes pass through all the new filters now in place, then we may need to accept that there indeed are 300 + silent voters who may be voting in certain time period due to constraints imposed upon them by real life matters.
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by xcrossfacekillahx » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:35 am

maglor wrote:
DarknessHid wrote:^@ above~ That's an awesome pic :)

Hm, I don't know whether I want to have to make an account to vote on KBM
Maybe i'll just watch the results...
but i really wanted to see the Hideyoshi VS Kanade result D:
...and also, what measures are going to be taken so that when they redo up to Round 96, all these "cheat-votes" don't happen a second time?
Since, with registration, there will be more data available for each votes, it now is technically feasible to detect what the staff suspected as being done by the mysterious voter(s). If they appear again, and if their votes pass through all the new filters now in place, then we may need to accept that there indeed are 300 + silent voters who may be voting in certain time period due to constraints imposed upon them by real life matters.
Do you know the new schedule already? I guess Round of 96 will be a long one unless we can vote in more arenas.
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by shiraoky » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:36 am

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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by maglor » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:55 am

xcrossfacekillahx wrote:
maglor wrote:
DarknessHid wrote:^@ above~ That's an awesome pic :)

Hm, I don't know whether I want to have to make an account to vote on KBM
Maybe i'll just watch the results...
but i really wanted to see the Hideyoshi VS Kanade result D:
...and also, what measures are going to be taken so that when they redo up to Round 96, all these "cheat-votes" don't happen a second time?
Since, with registration, there will be more data available for each votes, it now is technically feasible to detect what the staff suspected as being done by the mysterious voter(s). If they appear again, and if their votes pass through all the new filters now in place, then we may need to accept that there indeed are 300 + silent voters who may be voting in certain time period due to constraints imposed upon them by real life matters.
Do you know the new schedule already? I guess Round of 96 will be a long one unless we can vote in more arenas.
Although Eundong said 1 week from yesterday, thus restart at 6 day from now, I don't know whether that timeline be kept or not. He hasn't even uploaded English notice in the KBM page.
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by Eclairs » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:04 am

Anyone here can help me with the ridiculously non-user friendly for English site for KBM? I need to know which button to click to LOG on my KBM account :(
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by maglor » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:12 am

Eclairs wrote:Anyone here can help me with the ridiculously non-user friendly for English site for KBM? I need to know which button to click to LOG on my KBM account :(
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by xcrossfacekillahx » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:14 am

I just wanna know when voting will start. I can't wait
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by maglor » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:16 am

xcrossfacekillahx wrote:I just wanna know when voting will start. I can't wait
Oct. 8th Korean time = Oct. 7th in most of the world.
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by Eclairs » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:21 am

maglor wrote:
Eclairs wrote:Anyone here can help me with the ridiculously non-user friendly for English site for KBM? I need to know which button to click to LOG on my KBM account :(
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Thanks Maglor jiisama. I guess i'll leave my usercp in default mode tbh, since i cant even read korean. As long as they DONT ask for the members to post the votes in the threads, i think it will be ok because to be honest, i dont even know how to navigate this screen :x
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by Yakuman » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:19 am

Any news about the restart? It doesn't seem like it'll start on Oct. 8 :\
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by maglor » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:31 am

Yakuman wrote:Any news about the restart? It doesn't seem like it'll start on Oct. 8 :\
It has been postponed by a week due to server problems.
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by Jeffrey-sama » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:43 pm

maglor wrote:It has been postponed by a week due to server problems.
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It'll be interesting to see how they deal with these never-ending problems.
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by shiraoky » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:46 am

Looks like it'll be starting again soon~
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Re: Best Moe Tournament 2011

Post by Eclairs » Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:00 am

I am really starting to lose my appetite on KBM -_- with this neverending problems.
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