[RATE] 10. Clannad

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Have you watched CLANNAD?

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Yes, because I love dango and starfish.
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A little bit, because Botan is so cute.
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[RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Chocola » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:06 am

DO NOT POST SPOILERS Welcome to the ever-so-exciting filler event between Nominations and Preliminaries! For 2012, we will be discussing the anime represented in our Preliminary Round. There are several goals that we hope to achieve through this event. For those who already watched the anime, they can offer good insight to each other about the anime. And for those who haven't, they can take the opportunity to review feedback and see if they are interested in seeing the anime in the future. Comments are optional, although we suggest that you leave concise, general comments and not an essay.

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Here's the format I want you guys to use, so please stick to it because I'll be using it to give an average for everyone. When the poll ends, you may still rate but the forum average may update. Also, please don't use the four point scale! If you really think the story is bad, don't give it 20/30, give it 10/30.

Anime: Clannad (1st + OVA + AS + OVA)

+Story: 0/30 - comments
+Characters: 0/25 - comments
+Animation: 0/15 - comments
+Music: 0/10 - comments
+Enjoyment: 0/20 - comments

+Total: 0/100 (you must add up your 5 scores since this is a statistical rating)
+Episodes Watched: 0/49 (23 + 1 + 24 + 1)

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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by maglor » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:16 am

Anime: Clannad (1st + OVA + AS + OVA)

+Story: 23/30 - Some of the dramas were nice, but I am not sure what is so special about the stories. The character interaction was very well made. I am giving this section some boost due to depictions of how characters interact with each other.
+Characters: 22/25 - Character INTERACTION was the strong suite of the series, but as for the characters themselves, I like them, but I am hesitant to say any of them are truly of epic quality. Bonus points for diversity of personality and good character growth.
+Animation: 13/15 - Some times the animation is a real treat. some times it just feels plain. The animation in general is good however. Maybe we need to discuss about the iron skirt the girls are wearing.
+Music: 9/10 - Heck, my whole family liked the Dango song.
+Enjoyment: 17/20 - Don't know why but I enjoyed the series in many ways. Many jokes were funny and it was heart warming to see how each characters cope with changing situations.

+Total: 84/100 (you must add up your 5 scores since this is a statistical rating)
+Episodes Watched: ALL/49 (23 + 1 + 24 + 1)
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by RegalStar » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:25 am

+Story: 27/30 - The story really feels a bit slow from time to time in the first season, and the ending (in AS, obviously) kind of have a Deux ex Machina feeling (which is a shame, as it makes heck of a lot more sense in the VN). Otherwise, I can find no flaws within.
+Characters: 25/25 - Nagisa and Sanae are awesome. The rest of the cast are all very likeable at the very least.
+Animation: 14/15 - Character design could stand to improve a little; the rest are great for the most part.
+Music: 10/10 - I loved nearly every vocal song (Maeda and Lia = godly combo), and at least half the BGM. The more mundane BGMs are not as memorable (though they aresupposed to be mundane), but I liked them as well. It's Key, after all.
+Enjoyment: 20/20 - This is the series that really got me into anime.

+Total: 96/100 (you must add up your 5 scores since this is a statistical rating)
+Episodes Watched: 49/49 (23 + 1 + 24 + 1)
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by xcrossfacekillahx » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:38 am

+Story: 19/30 - The anime sacrificed some stories that could have made season 1 good. Season 2 was pure emotional, sometimes it's irritating.
+Characters: 19/25 - Character interaction was good but some characters just don't get as much limelight as the others. Sunohara is the real deal.
+Animation: 12/15 - It was very good but there are improvements to be made.
+Music: 9/10 - Very good music especially the BGM. I usually don't give a perfect 10 though.
+Enjoyment: 16/20 - It got me watching from the 1st episode to the last.

+Total: 75/100 (you must add up your 5 scores since this is a statistical rating)
+Episodes Watched: 49/49
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Ash Falls Town » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:40 am

Yay a show I've seen.

+Story: 28/30 - It starts off as an arc based story but all arcs are of high quality and each has it's own spin on it to differentiate it from similar arcs in other shows.
It also should be commended on showing their romance into adulthood and still writing it heartwarmingly. CLANNAD's theme is family and all the arcs show the importance of family, CLANNAD should also be commended on fitting all arcs together thematically displaying all aspects of family life and the bonds between them.
+Characters: 19/25 - Yohei and Tomoyo are weak links in an otherwise great cast. Even characters who look like they fit into archetypes (Kyou and tsundere etc.) show that they are more than that. Tomoya and Nagisa have one of anime's sweetest romances and fit together almost perfectly. Yohei however is doing something irritating almost half the time he's on screen which can sometimes bring down enjoyment and Tomoyo is one of my least favourite character types (Girls with complexes about not being considered cute) so she annoyed me a bit too.
+Animation: 14/15 - Everything is KyoAni levels pretty...
+Music: 10/10 - Dango Dango Dango Dango Dango Daikazoku. Good job. Even though the rest of the soundtrack is good too it gets full points for Dango alone.
+Enjoyment: 18/20 - It's a bit to long a series for a rewatch but it's a series that can be considered a classic. It actually beat out Neuro as best show of 2007. And 2007 was a REALLY strong year.

+Total: 89/100 (you must add up your 5 scores since this is a statistical rating)
+Episodes Watched: 49/49
BTW I haven't watched the movie. So I haven't really seen all of CLANNAD. But it doesn't really matter.
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by shiraoky » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:55 am

+Story: 26/30 - The story starts off as a regular slice of life sort of school life romance. It's nothing special, yet there are such realistic emotions put into this anime especially in the second season, that it's definitely worthwhile.
+Characters: 22/25 - It's hard to say that I disliked a few characters in Clannad, but most of them were portrayed quite well. A few characters I had some problems with, but that dislike usually died down in the second season.
+Animation: 14/15 - The sakura blossoms on the hill were really pretty, and so was the setting overall.
+Music: 10/10 - I loved the music in Clannad. The entire soundtrack was just beautiful.
+Enjoyment: 20/20 - So far my favorite all-time anime. Loved it.

+Total: 92/100 (you must add up your 5 scores since this is a statistical rating)
+Episodes Watched: 49/49 (23 + 1 + 24 + 1)
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Bastion » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:56 am

Watched the whole series, but couldn't help but feel like I was missing something, given that I was only watching the anime and not knowing the extent things were taken to in other related media. Even so, each character and story was given sufficient time to develop nicely
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by kanohistorm » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:53 am

+Story: 24/30 - S1 was somewhat slow/boring as they go through the arcs of each character, but After Story really hit a home run in terms of execution with where they wanted to take it.
+Characters: 22/25 - They were all well made. Well, Sunohara pissed me off quite a bit, simply because he was dense beyond (censored)
+Animation: 13/15 - Production standard level
+Music: 10/10 - I didn't really pay attention to the BGM during the anime, but when I got the soundtrack, it was pretty amazing how I familiar I'm with it once I listened to it. I still listen to most of them today
+Enjoyment: 17/20 - A few episodes were frustrating, but overall...this anime is one of the best I seen

+Total: 86/100 (you must add up your 5 scores since this is a statistical rating)
+Episodes Watched: ALL/49 (23 + 1 + 24 + 1)

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PS: My one regret/complaint was that they compressed the Tomoyo route into one episode as an alternate ending. For those who have played the VN, one episode isn't enough to reveal all there is on the Tomoyo route (An OVA/spinoff of 3~5episodes would had been ideal)
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by loudmouth » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:19 am

+Story: 26/30 -
For the the most part I liked the story and how it was delivered, but there were parts that weren't very good.
+Characters: 24/25 -
The characters were awesome. Apart from a few minor characters one of my favorite casts ever. I especially liked how the characters drove the plot rather than the plot driving the characters
+Animation: 15/15 -
Kyoto never disappoints. Arguably their prettiest title to date.
+Music: 10/10 -
Music is something that too many people overlook. A good soundtrack can make a mediocre show (DBZ) remembered as one of the all time greats (in terms of popularity at least). Now imagine what a good soundtrack can do for a good show.
+Enjoyment: 19/20 -
Apart from a couple things I loved it

+Total: 94/100
+Episodes Watched: 49/49
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Cross » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:44 am

Anime: Clannad (1st + OVA + AS + OVA)

+Story: 25/30 - I love the stories but I like more the plot that revolves around one story.
+Characters: 25/25 - They are amazing. BOW.
+Animation: 15/15 - I like it. It's not annoying.
+Music: 5/10 - I didn't focus much on the soundtracks. :|
+Enjoyment: 18/20 - I enjoyed it but not that perfect.

+Total: 88/100
+Episodes Watched: 47/49 (23 + x + 24 + x)
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by JLoable91 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:39 pm

+Story: 25/30 - After Story would get 30/30 but Season 1 didn't really have an interesting story... But the drama... Key tries to kill us!
+Characters: 24/25 - Awesome chars in an awesome anime
+Animation: 13/15 - Though I don't really like the art design... I was happy with the animation...
+Music: 10/10 - Dango, Dango~ Love the 2 openings and the BGM was very good!
+Enjoyment: 19/20 - Perfect enjoyment if there wouldn't have been harem...

+Total: 91/100 CLANNAD is unbeatable in it's genre!
+Episodes Watched: 49/49
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Cytrus » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:27 pm

Anime: Clannad (1st + OVA + AS + OVA)

+Story: 26/30 - There are some weird fillerish bits there, but the series does deserve props for what it did, especially in the second season.
+Characters: 22/25 - Honestly great leads, a rarity in a date sim adaptation. Sunohara is overdone sometimes, I suppose.
+Animation: 15/15 - No reason not to give full marks here.
+Music: 9/10 - Works as an integral part of the whole.
+Enjoyment: 17/20 - I remember not enjoying some buildup arcs, but the meat of the series is a treat. I know there are people allergic to Maeda's "emotional manipulation", but it's a recommended watch for everyone else.

+Total: 89/100 (you must add up your 5 scores since this is a statistical rating)
+Episodes Watched: 49/49 (23 + 1 + 24 + 1)
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Umi » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:12 pm

Story: 27/30
Given that there were different arcs for each heroine, the story wasn't too episodic so that's a plus.
Deducted a few points because of the illusionary world. The concept was beautiful but the execution was sub-par.
I'm not one for symbolism when it gets too confusing. I also thought they adapted it pretty well from the VN, which is no easy feat.

Characters: 23/25
Solid character development for almost every character. Usually I don't care about comic relief characters but Sunohara is quite endearing. Plus there's so much depth to Tomoya and Nagisa's relationship, it makes me think they are the golden couple.

Animation: 14/15
Very nice animation. I expect nothing less from KyoAni.

Music: 10/10
The ost was a masterpiece by Jun Maeda and Orito Shinji. The theme songs for each character were spot-on and the OPs/EDs/inserts/bgm were all very emotional.

Enjoyment: 16/20
Clannad started off slow to the point where I dropped it. Sometimes in between the arcs, there's really nothing going on. In contrast, AS was more drama-heavy. Would be good if they had balanced it out.

Total: 90/100
Episodes Watched: 49/49
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Yakuman » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:45 pm

+Story: 27/30
It's definitely the best drama I've ever watched. The balance between the comedy and the serious were absolutely perfect, and the backstories were really well done too, even for the minor characters. But no matter how much I'd like to give 30 for the story, I can't, for two reasons. The first reason is the Fujibayashi- and the Tomoyo-arc. It's a real shame that they've crammed those in a few episodes for the sake of completing the first half of the story, because I really liked the Another World-OVAs. The second reason is more personal: the seconnd half of After Story had so much emotional impact that I still cry over it when I think of what happened then. I got really depressed when I watched it for the first time ^^;

+Characters: 23/25
I liked most of the characters, except probably Ryou, some of the minor characters and Nagisa in the first season. They were done well nevertheless and Tomoya is my favorite male character of all time.

+Animation: 12/15
I've found the character design horrendous when I first saw it on some pics. However, when I started watching the show and the characters started moving, I came to like it. My only concern is that a few side characters pretty much look alike ^^; The animation itself, the backgrounds and the rest were nice, as expected from KyoAni.

+Music: 8/10
The BGM is classic visual novelesque music, but the opening (especially the After Story OP) and the EDs were nice. They've made a serious mistake with showing the ending on a certain episode though.

+Enjoyment: 19/20
I deducted a point for making me cry so much even though I'm a guy :P Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 was the only series that pulled this off on a similar level. But seriously, it's one of my all-time favorites and deserves the praise. Definitely recommended!

+Total: 89/100
+Episodes Watched: 49/49
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by akumaxx » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:19 pm

+Episodes Watched: 49/49 without game support

+Story: 25/30
First half to choose route. It may be just enough, but not sparking. Second half is close to reality, but looks like a rush. Overall another 'cry if I can' show.
+Characters: 25/25
"And toilet cover!", "My bread...", funny. Into AS they grow a lot especially Tomoya pair.
+Animation: 12/15
Cannot find (or remember) anyting bad.
+Music: 9/10
Not paying much attention, but one epic ending is good.
+Enjoyment: 15/20
The OVAs act as alternatives, sadly not all choices have one.

+Total: 86/100 (S+)
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Momento10 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:21 pm

Story: 30/30 - Flawless execution of what it means to be a family, the overall arc of the story. It's not everyday one gets to see a visual novel adaptation done remarkably well and had almost every arc embedded while keeping into the main focus of the story.
Characters: 25/25 - Character interaction and development were the strongest points in the anime. Almost all the characters are likable.
Animation: 15/15 - Both illusionary and real world have beautiful and detailed backgrounds and scenery. Also, Key.
Music: 10/10 - OP, ED, Insert Songs, BGM, I enjoyed all of it.
Enjoyment: 20/20 - Favorite show to date.

Total: 100/100
Episodes Watched: 49/49
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Eclairs » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:48 pm

Same case with MSLN, havent watched it, nor do i intend on watching it. If enough Clannad girls made it past prelims, i might watch it.
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by shiraoky » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:35 am

Eclairs wrote:Same case with MSLN, havent watched it, nor do i intend on watching it. If enough Clannad girls made it past prelims, i might watch it.
:/ That's really too bad. I seriously recommend watching it, but I can't force you to do it or anything x3
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Chocola » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:02 am

In fact, the more you shove a "good" anime down someone's throat, the more their expectation skyrockets and may lead them to hating it when they finally see it. :P Ask RegalStar the troll.
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Re: [RATE] 10. Clannad

Post by Bastion » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:19 am

KholdStare88 wrote:In fact, the more you shove a "good" anime down someone's throat, the more their expectation skyrockets and may lead them to hating it when they finally see it. :P Ask RegalStar the troll.
And sometimes Hype Backlash or I Do Not Like Green Eggs And Ham occurs, along with Hype Aversion keeping them away from it in the first place.

That's part of the reason I haven't seen some of the shows that have shown up.. along with lazyness :-P
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