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2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by kanohistorm » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:39 pm

I don't expect too many changes to the way nomination will work next year aside from some fine tweaking.
Note: everything is subject to change in regards to graduation, automatic qualification, nomination process based on staff's decision. See 2014 charter for most accurate information when it's up!
2013 CharterShow
II. Nova and Stella Divisions
A. Beginning with the Preliminary Period, Candidates and Contestants in ISML 2013 are separated into the Nova Division and the Stella Division.
B. All characters begin in the Nova Division. They must advance to the Stella Division upon achievement of any of the following:
  • 1. Recipient of a Division Championship or League Championship
    2. Contestant in Regular Season four or more years ago (i.e. 2008-2010)
    3. Contestant in Regular Season two or more times
III. Automatic Qualification
A. No characters are permitted to advance directly to the Regular Season.
B. The Top 12 Contestants from ISML 2013 Regular Season, Nova Division who have not advanced to ISML 2014 Stella Division are permitted automatic entry into ISML 2013 Preliminary Period, Nova Division.
C. The Top 8 Contestants from the ISML 2013 Seasonal Tournament who have not advanced to ISML 2014 Stella Division are permitted automatic entry into ISML 2014 Preliminary Period, Nova Division.
D. Characters who have participated in Regular Season for three or more years and have appeared in the regular season with the past 3 seasons are permitted automatic entry into ISML 2014 Preliminary Period, Stella Division.

IV. Nomination Period
A. The Nomination Period lasts seven (7) days.
B. Character eligibility will be checked according to Article III of the ISML Constitution with one additional condition: Character data occurring after 31 December 2013 will not be considered.
C. The nomination form will separate Nova Division and Stella Division.
  • 1. Voters may nominate up to eight (8) characters for Nova Division.
    2. Voters may nominate up to six (6) characters for Stella Division.
    3. Voters must nominate at least three (3) characters.
    4. Voters must nominate from at least two (2) anime series.
D. Nominated characters must be unique.
E. Invalid nominations will be discarded individually and will not void the entire ballot unless the discards result in a violation of any of the subsections of Rule C.
F. At the end of the Nomination Period, Characters with the most nominations in each Division will advance to the Preliminary Period until the allotted slots are filled.
  • 1. The number of allotted slots for each Division is eighty-four (84) minus the number of automatic entries defined previously.
    2. Staff will resolve any ties that occur in the last available slot(s). Priority consideration shall be given, if applicable, to those characters who were not selected in ISML 2013.
Class of 2013 GraduatesShow
Shiina Mashiro (Sakurasou) Circlet winner
Oshino Shinobu (Monogatari)
Hasegawa Kobato (Haganai)
Kashiwazaki Sena (Haganai)
Yuzuriha Inori (Guilty Crown)
Kanzaki H. Aria (Hidan no Aria)
Mikazuki Yozora (Haganai)
Makise Kurisu (Steins; Gate)
Honma Meiko (AnoHana)
Tōwa Erio (DenpaOnna)
Kirishima Shōko (BakaTest)
Konoe Subaru (MayoChiki)
Akemi Homura (PMMM)

13graduates

Graduates via Section II, rule 2:
Akaba Chizuru (Seitokai no Ichizon)
Fukuji Mihoko (Saki)
Haramura Nodoka (Saki)
Okazaki Ushio (Clannad)
Saginomiya Isumi (Hayate)
Sakurano Kurimu (Seitokai no Ichizon)
Saten Ruiko (Raildex)
Shiina Minatsu (Seitokai no Ichizon)

8 graduates
Nova Prelims Auto QualificationShow
Nova via Regular Season: (12 slots)
  • 1. Takanashi Rikka (Chuunibyou)
    2. Kuroyukihime (Accel World)
    3. Yūki Asuna (Sword Art Online)
    4. Aoyama Nanami (Sakurasou)
    5. Chitanda Eru (Hyouka)
    6. Nibutani Shinka (Chuunibyou)
    7. Nyarlathotep (Haiyore! Nyarauko)
    8. Yui (Sword Art Online)
    9. Momo B. Deviluke (To Love Ru)
    10. Takanashi Touka (Chuunibyou)
    11. Yūki Mikan (To Love Ru)
    12. Natsume Rin (Little Buster)
Nova via Seasonal Tournament Results (8 slots)
  • Winter 2012/2013:
    1. Black Rabbit (Mondaiji Tachi)
    2. Leticia Draculair (Mondaiji Tachi)
  • Spring 2013:
    1. Tokisaki Kurumi (Date A Live)
    2. Itsuki Kotori (Date A Live)
  • Summer 2013:
    1. Kirigiri Kyouko (Danganronpa)
    2. Noire (Neptunia)
  • Fall 2013
    1. Kuriyama Mirai (Kyoukai no Kanata)
    2. Nase Mitsuki (Kyoukai no Kanata)
Stella Prelims Auto QualificationShow
  • Aisaka Taiga Toradora!
    Akiyama Mio K-ON!
    Aragaki Ayase Ore no Imōto
    Asahina Mikuru Suzumiya Haruhi no Yūutsu
    C.C. Code Geass
    Charlotte Dunois IS <Infinite Stratos>
    Eucliwood Hellscythe Kore wa Zombie Desu ka?
    Fate Testarossa Mahō Shōjo Lyrical Nanoha
    Fujibayashi Kyō CLANNAD
    Furukawa Nagisa CLANNAD
    Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) Ore no Imōto
    Hiiragi Kagami Lucky ☆ Star
    Hirasawa Ui K-ON!
    Hirasawa Yui K-ON!
    Holo Spice and Wolf
    Ichinose Kotomi CLANNAD
    Illyasviel von Einzbern Fate/stay night
    Index L. Prohibitorum Toaru Majutsu no Index
    Iwasawa Masami Angel Beats!
    Izumi Konata Lucky ☆ Star
    Katsura Hinagiku Hayate no Gotoku!
    Konjiki no Yami To LOVE-Ru
    Kōsaka Kirino Ore no Imōto
    Kuroi Matō Black★Rock Shooter
    Last Order Toaru Majutsu no Index
    Louise Vallière Zero no Tsukaima
    Misaka Mikoto Toaru Majutsu no Index
    Nagato Yuki Suzumiya Haruhi no Yūutsu
    Nakamura Yuri Angel Beats!
    Nakano Azusa K-ON!
    Nymph Sora no Otoshimono
    Saber Fate/stay night
    Sakagami Tomoyo CLANNAD
    Sanzen'in Nagi Hayate no Gotoku!
    Sengoku Nadeko Bakemonogatari
    Senjōgahara Hitagi Bakemonogatari
    Shana Shakugan no Shana
    Shiina Mafuyu Seitokai no Ichizon
    Suzumiya Haruhi Suzumiya Haruhi no Yūutsu
    Tachibana Kanade Angel Beats!
    Tōsaka Rin Fate/stay night
    Victorique de Blois GOSICK
    Yui Angel Beats!
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by blaZofgold » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:53 am

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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by LOveLive! » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:08 am

First, Stella Prelims Automatic Qualification MUST be changed. There were a lot of uncompetitive auto-qualifiers(especially Furude Hanyu) this year. Moreover, if this Automatic Qualification is maintained, there will be more and more auto-qualifiers as the years go by.
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by blaZofgold » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:26 am

LOveLive! wrote:First, Stella Prelims Auto Qualification MUST be changed. There were a lot of uncompetitive auto-qualifiers(especially Furude Hanyu) this year. Moreover, if this Auto Qualification is maintained, there will be more and more auto-qualifiers as the years go by.
If they're uncompetitive, then won't they just get knocked out really early?

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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by loudmouth » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:47 am

LOveLive! wrote:First, Stella Prelims Automatic Qualification MUST be changed. There were a lot of uncompetitive auto-qualifiers(especially Furude Hanyu) this year. Moreover, if this Automatic Qualification is maintained, there will be more and more auto-qualifiers as the years go by.
I sort of agree, especially concerning years from now. Right now there are few enough auto-qualifiers that it doesn't really matter, but eventually there will need to be a change. The wall of Stella hopefuls we picked from during nominations will get pretty ridiculous a couple years from now. Maybe after a certain number of years of non-participation a character will go back to Nova? Since in that case the only reason they would be participating again would certainly be due to brand new material.

As for my nominations:
Azuki Azusa - HenNeko
Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko - HenNeko (if she doesn't auto-qualify)
Kirigiri Kyouko - Dangan Ronpa
Miyu Edelfelt - Prisma Illya
Yusa Emi - Maou-sama
Sasaki Chiho - Maou-sama
Mikasa Ackerman - Attack on Titan
Saten Ruiko - Railgun
Shiguma Rika - Haganai

If Tsukiko gets in through the exhibition, I have 8. I'll probably still have to make some cuts to allow for Fall shows though.
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by LOveLive! » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:12 am

blaZofgold wrote:
LOveLive! wrote:First, Stella Prelims Auto Qualification MUST be changed. There were a lot of uncompetitive auto-qualifiers(especially Furude Hanyu) this year. Moreover, if this Auto Qualification is maintained, there will be more and more auto-qualifiers as the years go by.
If they're uncompetitive, then won't they just get knocked out really early?

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Yeah, Furude Hanyuu did not pass even nomination last year.

Furude Rika, Hiiragi Tsukasa, Ibuki Fuuko, Maria, and Takamachi Nanoha have not appeared in Regular Season for 3 years, and Fate Testarossa has not for 2 years. At least these 7 must not be given auto-qualifing tickets.

36 candidates were auto-qualified this year, and 12 more candidates will be next year, Even if those 7 are excluded, 41 candidates, almost half of all qualifiers will be auto-qualified.
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by 10ZHAbin » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:41 am

The separate Nova and Stella nomination went terrible this year with the amount of ineligimate votes on Stella characters being nominated under Nova slots. Why don't we just give everybody 14 nomination slots? The Nova and the Stella can be separated later.

Also that, 2014 will be the forth year for the 2010 RS characters after their first (for some, their only) RS year, so all the 2010 RS characters will go into Stella in 2014, that includes the current Novas Fukuji Mihoko, Haramura Nodoka, Okazaki Ushio, Saten Ruiko, Sakurano Kurimu, Akaba Chizuru and Shiina Minatsu (although it's not like any of them will go anywhere near RS again).
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by Desufire » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:41 am

I think there needs to be 2 nomination phases for Nova.

Write-ups and then a voting nomination (similar to Stella for 2013)
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by Chocola » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:17 pm

1) The reason for "voting" during Stella nomination was exactly that - the pool was so small we'd rather have voting than give a short list of characters that you're only supposed to write down for. Once the pool gets large enough, then we will revert to normal nominations for Stella.

2) If you're nominating a Stella character in Nova then scroll down, your Stella character's avatar should be right there and you realize you fucked up. If you don't read, that's not our fault. There has to be a reason we list loads of avatars, so if you're confused, backtrack and READ THE RULES. We also don't want all 14 nominations to go to just Stella or Nova, and you know QUITE WELL that enforcing a rule such as (at least 5 in each division) is not doable with scripts, and only then after translation.

The voting rules are translated in many languages, including Chinese (both) and Korean, so there shouldn't be any reason for most people to make this mistake. Not reading is not an excuse. Do I sound angry? Possibly. I'm done trying to accommodate for people's incompetence.
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by maglor » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:30 pm

I need to add that in 2014, We will have that "Stella voting/nomination" on the top, and Nova Nomination slots below it. This way, people can see who are in the Stella. We will also have another big warning about not nominating those in the Stella, nor the Nova autoqualified, right before Nova Nomination slots are, in as many languages as we can manage ( We are looking for Spanish and various SE Asian language translators who is capable of not leaking whatever materials Staff asks them to see while being fluent in English. Knowledge of computer programming, computer graphics, and statistical analysis is a plus). Hopefully this will lessen the number of invalid write in nominations for Nova division.
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by Desufire » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:44 pm

KholdStare88 wrote:1) The reason for "voting" during Stella nomination was exactly that - the pool was so small we'd rather have voting than give a short list of characters that you're only supposed to write down for. Once the pool gets large enough, then we will revert to normal nominations for Stella.

2) If you're nominating a Stella character in Nova then scroll down, your Stella character's avatar should be right there and you realize you fucked up. If you don't read, that's not our fault. There has to be a reason we list loads of avatars, so if you're confused, backtrack and READ THE RULES. We also don't want all 14 nominations to go to just Stella or Nova, and you know QUITE WELL that enforcing a rule such as (at least 5 in each division) is not doable with scripts, and only then after translation.

The voting rules are translated in many languages, including Chinese (both) and Korean, so there shouldn't be any reason for most people to make this mistake. Not reading is not an excuse. Do I sound angry? Possibly. I'm done trying to accommodate for people's incompetence.
You don't need to get so defensive about it. And people will ALWAYS be incompetent. Catering to them is bad, but if we want a more consistent nomination field, I still think there should be two phases to nominations. A write-up(with a large field) to get as many characters as possible into people's minds (which is a big problem with the writeups, people forgetting certain characters exist) and then a voting nomination period which furthers the list to the required amount for preliminaries. (For example if 76 were needed for prelims, have 102 enter into nominations round 2)
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by Bastion » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:15 pm

Ignoring the current battle, at current my nominations will stay the same as they were last year with a few exceptions for auto-qualifiers into Nova. I haven't been able to watch any new animes this year, so I don't have anything new to go on :(
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by 10ZHAbin » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:35 pm

Around half of my Stella nominations are high in rank in RS this year so I can't decide until the auto qualify rule is up, but for Nova.
Ai Astin - Sunday Without God
Shiina - AB!
Otonashi Hatsune - AB!
Kaname Madoka - PMMM!
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by Chocola » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:59 pm

Desufire wrote:You don't need to get so defensive about it. And people will ALWAYS be incompetent.
If you think I'm defensive, then I think you completely missed how I feel about this situation. Defensive means "behaving in a way that shows that you feel people are criticizing you," while I just feel angry and losing faith in humanity because of what you said, why so many people will always be incompetent. (Now I am defensive about the statement I just quoted.) The format maglor posted should solve everything. If you vote for Stella first, then you should know to not nominate that character again for Nova, period, if you have any semblance of a brain.
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by Bastion » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:49 pm

KholdStare88 wrote:The format maglor posted should solve everything. If you vote for Stella first, then you should know to not nominate that character again for Nova, period, if you have any semblance of a brain.
True, but we know that there are a lot of people who don't, most of us know at least one personally and the US seems to be breeding them.

The same could be said regarding ISML being a 'moe' contest but it's turned into a popularity contest.
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by kanohistorm » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:23 am

Things to work on (any help would be appreciated):
List of Stella Auto qualification candidates (more specifically, last year's list...it'll be easier for me if I need to go through less amounts of data)
List of Nova graduates through regular season appearance in 2010 (if any)

edit:
found last year's list fairly easily. Just need to do the new entries now

edit 2:
done...i think...subject to errors ^^
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As far as Nova nomination goes...

1) Haqua du Lot Herminium (Kaminomi)
2) Takahara Ayumi (Kaminomi)
3) Miniwa Tsumiki (Acchi Kocchi)
4) Neko (K)
5) Nishikino Maki (Love Live)
6) Minami Kotori (Love Live)
7) Sanka Rea (Sankarea)
8) Yaya (Machine Doll Kizutsukanai)

as of now...subject to turbulent changes, ofcourse ^^
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by RegalStar » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:06 am

Isn't it a bit too early to make this thread considering that we haven't even seen any October characters?
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by Desufire » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:20 am

Bastion wrote:
KholdStare88 wrote:The format maglor posted should solve everything. If you vote for Stella first, then you should know to not nominate that character again for Nova, period, if you have any semblance of a brain.
True, but we know that there are a lot of people who don't, most of us know at least one personally and the US seems to be breeding them.

The same could be said regarding ISML being a 'moe' contest but it's turned into a popularity contest.
Well, the main problem isn't that ISML isn't about "moe", it's that there are so many different definitions and perceptions of moe, so it has no one true definition. One character can be moe to one person and meh to someone else. Example: You think Hina is moe, but I just think she's meh.
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by kanohistorm » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:35 am

RegalStar wrote:Isn't it a bit too early to make this thread considering that we haven't even seen any October characters?
no...not really.
It's not like people aren't allowed to change their minds and whatnot. And I'm pretty sure nomination has been on the back of most people's mind at some point since 2013 started.
Also being able to prod the staff here and there for changes and future plans going forward


Just my point of view though.
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Re: [Unofficial] 2014 Nomination Plan Thread

Post by 10ZHAbin » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:37 am

KholdStare88 wrote:1) The reason for "voting" during Stella nomination was exactly that - the pool was so small we'd rather have voting than give a short list of characters that you're only supposed to write down for. Once the pool gets large enough, then we will revert to normal nominations for Stella.

2) If you're nominating a Stella character in Nova then scroll down, your Stella character's avatar should be right there and you realize you fucked up. If you don't read, that's not our fault. There has to be a reason we list loads of avatars, so if you're confused, backtrack and READ THE RULES. We also don't want all 14 nominations to go to just Stella or Nova, and you know QUITE WELL that enforcing a rule such as (at least 5 in each division) is not doable with scripts, and only then after translation.

The voting rules are translated in many languages, including Chinese (both) and Korean, so there shouldn't be any reason for most people to make this mistake. Not reading is not an excuse. Do I sound angry? Possibly. I'm done trying to accommodate for people's incompetence.
So does this mean that the staff members will need to make extra voting avatars for the Stellas that weren't in Prelinary this year? Since the format of the avatars from 2010 is different from this year. Or will it just be their old avatars?
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