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by Reverend » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:48 pm
Homura wrote:Reverend wrote:Is this really a backfire from Yukino? or a change of mind from her fans?
At the time ToC was relatively new, and as we all know ToC is indirectly "a retirement", so...
A deeper analysis about vote spread, particularly in China, is required.
Even if there were Yukino fans who naively, arrogantly, ridiculously thought Yukino should continue staying in the main tournament, and later she would easily have another chance showing up in the Tiara final, they should be very few.
We can say that now. We cannot say that then.
My question is: how few? Is it enough to "make China betray Yukino"?
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by Homura » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:03 pm
Reverend wrote:Homura wrote:Reverend wrote:Is this really a backfire from Yukino? or a change of mind from her fans?
At the time ToC was relatively new, and as we all know ToC is indirectly "a retirement", so...
A deeper analysis about vote spread, particularly in China, is required.
Even if there were Yukino fans who naively, arrogantly, ridiculously thought Yukino should continue staying in the main tournament, and later she would easily have another chance showing up in the Tiara final, they should be very few.
We can say that now. We cannot say that then.
My question is: how few? Is it enough to "make China betray Yukino"?
Well, in 2015 China probably cannot be called as loyal to Yukino in the first place. In RS, Yukino lost 10 out of 35 matches in China, ranking 9th in Nova. Kuriyama Mirai, the less noticeable KyoAni girl, had a 27W 8L in China.
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by maglor » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:58 pm
Homura wrote:Reverend wrote:Homura wrote:Reverend wrote:Is this really a backfire from Yukino? or a change of mind from her fans?
At the time ToC was relatively new, and as we all know ToC is indirectly "a retirement", so...
A deeper analysis about vote spread, particularly in China, is required.
Even if there were Yukino fans who naively, arrogantly, ridiculously thought Yukino should continue staying in the main tournament, and later she would easily have another chance showing up in the Tiara final, they should be very few.
We can say that now. We cannot say that then.
My question is: how few? Is it enough to "make China betray Yukino"?
Well, in 2015 China probably cannot be called as loyal to Yukino in the first place. In RS, Yukino lost 10 out of 35 matches in China, ranking 9th in Nova. Kuriyama Mirai, the less noticeable KyoAni girl, had a 27W 8L in China.
Should we beg Avery to make a separate stat page dedicated to cumulative wins and losses a character has in a certain geographical region for year 2017 and beyond? That may need us bribing Avery with lots and lots of pretty pictures and Lolis.

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by Reverend » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:39 pm
maglor wrote:Homura wrote:Reverend wrote:Homura wrote:Reverend wrote:Is this really a backfire from Yukino? or a change of mind from her fans?
At the time ToC was relatively new, and as we all know ToC is indirectly "a retirement", so...
A deeper analysis about vote spread, particularly in China, is required.
Even if there were Yukino fans who naively, arrogantly, ridiculously thought Yukino should continue staying in the main tournament, and later she would easily have another chance showing up in the Tiara final, they should be very few.
We can say that now. We cannot say that then.
My question is: how few? Is it enough to "make China betray Yukino"?
Well, in 2015 China probably cannot be called as loyal to Yukino in the first place. In RS, Yukino lost 10 out of 35 matches in China, ranking 9th in Nova. Kuriyama Mirai, the less noticeable KyoAni girl, had a 27W 8L in China.
Should we beg Avery to make a separate stat page dedicated to cumulative wins and losses a character has in a certain geographical region for year 2017 and beyond? That may need us bribing Avery with lots and lots of
pretty pictures and Lolis.
yeah we should

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by Demi. » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:26 am
So Asuna wins in a single country and she still manages a 400vote lead on Rem? It's not even a darker color.
upload your pic
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by maglor » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:50 pm
Demi. wrote:So Asuna wins in a single country and she still manages a 400vote lead on Rem? It's not even a darker color.
upload your pic
It is a case of very few abstains in China while other countries had higher proportion of abstains. Asuna-Rem match had one of the lowest abstain rate in China compared to other matches.
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by Reverend » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:32 pm
Demi. wrote:So Asuna wins in a single country and she still manages a 400vote lead on Rem? It's not even a darker color.
erm... welcome (back) to ISML?
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by Chibasa » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:16 pm
Rankings (text version) are now available.
1 Katō Megumi
2 Emilia
3 Yūki Asuna
4 Shiina Mashiro
5 Rem
6 Tokisaki Kurumi
7 Tōsaka Rin
8 Shiro
9 Illyasviel von Einzbern
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1 Korosensei
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5 Otonashi Yuzuru
6 Shiota Nagisa
7 Yukihira Sōma
8 Kamijō Tōma
9 Satō Kazuma
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by XIQQ » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:50 am
Chibasa wrote:Rankings (text version) are now available.
1 Katō Megumi
2 Emilia
3 Yūki Asuna
4 Shiina Mashiro
5 Rem
6 Tokisaki Kurumi
7 Tōsaka Rin
8 Shiro
9 Illyasviel von Einzbern
10 Yukinoshita Yukino
11 Aisaka Taiga
12 Takanashi Rikka
13 Kasumigaoka Utaha
14 Megumin
15 Saber
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19 Miyamizu Mitsuha
20 Asada Shino
1 Korosensei
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4 Saitama
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7 Yukihira Sōma
8 Kamijō Tōma
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13 Gilgamesh
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15 Edward Elric
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17 Emiya Shirō
18 Archer
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20 Sakata Gintoki
Emmm what happened to Jibril?
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by Chibasa » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:31 am
Jibril is #21. She lost her place in top 20, losing to Shino.
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by XIQQ » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:40 am
Why is Mitsuha above Shino and Jibril, then? Because I thought Mitsuha was deemed too weak to even participate in the consolations.
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by Chibasa » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:00 am
Because she has a better CVP than both Jibril and Shino. We ranked based on CVP + Consolations matches.
Shino, Jibril, Utaha and Saber had a chance to face some Round of 16 opponents as Diamond 5th (It acted as WildCard matches, that we didn't had for Diamond Period).
As 6th of Diamond Period, Mitsuha never had this chance in the first place, however, during Regular Season she had overall better results than Shino and Jibril.
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by XIQQ » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:35 am
It’s confusing when different parameters are used to determine the consolation participants and the final ranking...not to mention it’s very ambiguous in the rules in the first place.
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by Homura » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:42 am
@maglor Things like fairness, how closely the final ranking reflects the characters' actual performances throughout the year, in the end these are all subjective to certain degrees. If perfect objectiveness/accuracy cannot be achieved, being friendly and easy to understand to most voters is the first thing to consider I'll say, since voters is the primary part for ISML, even if to satisfy the majority of regular people, the more logical minds of the decision makers have to suffer bearable dissatisfaction.
Personally, I have no problem with the final ranking tho.
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by Chibasa » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:04 am
Posters are up !
Tiara: Pinkachu strikes again
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by Wishing » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:42 pm
Hope this year Hachiman will win.
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by Kurogaga » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:43 pm
Wishing wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:42 pm
Hope this year Hachiman will win.
I hope so, too.